A mortal marriage: Louis and Hélène Althusser

Louis Althusser and his wife Hélène, marxist intellectuals, had a difficult relationship that lasted until he killed her. What do the charts say about the relationship of this famous couple?

In short: they clicked, they didn't see each other clearly and it was a painful relationship with strong ties of a ideological couple with more than one shared experience or characteristic. It was a marriage strongly defined by the eventually destructive ailment of the husband.

MATCH: OK
How was the match? Surprisingly good. Look at the chart of Hélène with the transits of the day of birth of her husband and later killer:

- Sun conjunct Sun is for joined life style, joined ways of living and living together as one, tightly. They were a bit of the same kind.
In this case that was very difficult, because Althusser had problems accepting himself. So how could he accept his alter ego or the one in the mirror?

- Venus conjunct Venus should mirror joined sympathies and preferences, loving each other. The story says, however, that they argued about almost everything, like buying clothes. Maybe that WAS because they used to feel at ease with each other. 

- Their Moon signs didn't match (Pisces and Aquarius), so they had different needs, habits and backgrounds. It wasn't easy to share the same house. 

- It was easier to share the same bed, perhaps. Mars is sextile Mars and that is a match.

They 'clicked', mostly.

STRANGE SYNASTRY
Her midpoint Sun/Moon is square his Chiron. There is hurt and pain related to the marriage. He hurt her all the time and maybe  she hurt him, too. It seems to have been part of the deal. On http://www.edwardfox.f2s.com/althusser1.html they quote a friend saying that they were both the knife and the wound to each other. 

His Neptune is quindecile her Ascendant and that is a rare and nasty coincidence that creates a confusing situation. His Sun is quintile Neptune, and that is creating confusion anyway.

Her Neptune and Uranus are square his Sun and in her natal chart the Sun is square Uranus and Neptune, too. Perhaps she wanted to be blind for what she saw (for example, when he flirted with others). Maybe they never really saw each other as they really were.

One of the most important aspects of the relationship is his Saturn conjunct her Ascendant. There also was a sort of tendency to control or limit Helene (Saturn-Ascendant) and she respected him. There was an age difference (she was older). In the end, he ended her life. Saturn-Ascendant relationships tend to last long, sometimes because the Saturn person doesn't let the Ascendant person go…

All in all they clicked (but they had different habits). She idolized him and he mesmerized her. And she was motivated and attracted by his pain and by him hurting her? (Chiron*) Also, it  was a relationship based on guilt or responsibility, with an age difference.

NO DIVORCE
Why didn't they file for divorce? I think that it is because of the fact that they both had not enough aspects related to divorce. His Moon opposition Saturn is only one of the 4 indications of divorce in a male's chart. Her Sun conjunct Mars is wide, but she has Sun square Uranus, tightly. They were more than adult when they met, so apparently they had a hard time finding a partner. When he started to have fans and followers, there was enough choice. Or am I cynical?

SHARED ASPECTS
When people share aspects, they share the same experiences or characteristics. For example, when you had a hard time in love (Venus-Saturn) and your partner, too, you are likely to stick together in order to avoid more pain.

• THE HIDDEN SHARED VENUS-SATURN

You know that Venus - Saturn makes you stick like glue to marriage, because of obligations, the mortgage, parenthood or other feelings of responsibility or guilt.
Helen has a minor aspect between Venus and Saturn: 157.5 degrees (sesquisquare + half semi square).
Louis has the semi square.

They shared Venus-Saturn. Quoting myself (http://www.astromarkt.net/sharing-aspects.html ):
Venus-Saturn: staying together as long as possible because love is a serious thing. And if you break up (possible with conflicts and supported by more indications) the pain is long felt.
He was never true to her. He seduced women in front of her, just to hurt or punish her. But she didn't leave him. I think that Hélène's Moon inconjunct Venus shows an almost desperate need to be loved that eventually cost her her life (as Venus is ruler 8th house of life and death.

• SHARING SUN-URANUS

She had Sun square Uranus
He had Sun trine Uranus
It means that their relationship had an unusual start and that there was excitement and tension between them. It seems that she  was his first sex partner.

• SHARING SUN-NEPTUNE

She has Sun square Neptune
He had Sun quintile Neptune

They were both idealist and possibly had a romantic idea about the world. They also were unclear abou tthemselves. Quoting myself again:
" Sun and Neptune shared in aspect gives you shared ideals, dreams and faith or even a shared idol! But with hard aspects you might share the same disillusions as well or this relationship is disillusive. Cooperating could work out best in an asylum or in a non-profit organization where they can help others, and each other."

This seems to be related to his mental situation and to the marxism.

• SHARING VENUS-MARS

Venus conjunct Mars and Venus sextile Mars: they were people with a passion.

**It is an interesting case of a matching couple with difficulties. In the eyes of their friends, they were not 'compatible' at all, however. She was not elegant, she was old fashioned and she was humiliated by him in public. Saturn made it very hard on her and still she didn't leave.
**

KILLING
A. The killer
When he killed her, there were difficult and easy transits and progressions at the same time. What would you think of these transits and progressions?
1. Transit Mars trine Saturn
On that specific day, it was time for an easy death end.
2. Transit Saturn square Pluto
Having a hard time facing consequences, fear of paying the price. Saturn rising before the Sun and Pluto conjunct Midheaven point at the importance of Saturn and Pluto.
3. Transit Pluto conjunct Sun
Stress!!!! As her Sun is conjunct his, it was shortly after her transit Pluto-Sun experience. They were both having difficult times.
4. Transit Jupiter conjunct Ascendant
This day was the start of 'getting better' (often a therapy or doctor is 'on the horizon' with Jupiter)
5. Transit Jupiter inconjunct Progressed IC
Improvement with a loss involved
6. Transit Saturn opposition Nessus in 7
A hard confrontation after death
7. Transit Nessus inconjunct progressed Sun
Facing anger from the past in an unbalanced way with a loss involved.
8. Progressed Sun sextile Progressed Uranus
Liberation, independence and change coming up.

B. The victim
Her transits and progressions on the final day:
1. Transit Uranus conjunct MC
A shock, something suddenly changes the status quo
2. Transit Neptune sextile Sun
Confused 'letting go'
3. Transit Chiron inconjunct Progressed Moon
A moment of hurt
4. Transit Chiron semi square Sun/Moon
Vulnerable frustrating moment in marriage (remember that his Chiron is square her Sun/Moon. This transit is resonating that).
5. Transit Mars inconjunct IC
Getting hurt with a loss involved
6. In the progressed chart Saturn was conjunct Midheaven
The end of a period or condition (she died)

NATAL CHART HELENE
- Her Mars rises before her Sun. They describe her as 'militant' and with a cracked voice (Sun square Uranus).

- In her natal chart the Descendant was conjunct Mars/Saturn. It refers to a death ends on the horizon. In the Second World War she was a member of the resistance.

- She also had Jupiter and Neptune in hard aspect with the angles, for hope, beliefs and following an ideology.

- Her Saturn was 'calling'!

The importance of Mars and Saturn and the midpoint Mars/Saturn-horizon shows that issues of limited energy, death ends and discipline were important in her life. It seems that she spoke of suicide more than once.

If you wish to see the picture of Hélène and her natal chart, go to Astrodienst:
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Althusser,_Hélène


NATAL CHART LOUIS
He was mentally ill and yet worshipped by his audience (Moon quatronovile Neptune and sesquisquare Jupiter).

He said that he did it without knowing it. I think that Sun quintile Neptune is the aspect of the creative double life and the creative fantasy, too. As you may see in the links, he explains that he had an identity crisis. On my site Astromarkt, in the article about Sun-Neptune, I mention the issue of identity crisis related to this aspect.
He said that it wasn't him, but it was him. Here is the chart with transits and progressions for the fatal day.

LINKS FOR MORE INFO

LINK SUN-NEPTUNE
http://www.astromarkt.net/sun-neptune.html

EXTERNAL LINKS ABOUT SATURN CONJUNCT ASCENDANT SYNASTRY
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/203927.html

http://astromatrix.org/Astrology/SynastryAspect?planet1=saturn&aspect=conjunct&planet2=ascendant

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=62106

EXTERNAL LINKS ON THE CASE
http://www.academia.edu/524253/The_Man_Who_Didnt_Exist_the_Case_of_Louis_Althusser

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/getting-away-with-murder-its-the-talk-of-paris--how-louis-althusser-killed-his-wife-how-he-was-an-intellectual-fraud-its-all-in-his-posthumous-autobiographical-memoir-gilbert-adair-turns-the-pages-1530755.html

http://www.edwardfox.f2s.com/althusser1.html

http://bibliobs.nouvelobs.com/essais/20110513.OBS3021/exclusif-les-lettres-d-althusser-a-sa-femme.html

The synastry of Princess Cristina and Inaki Urdangarin

It is obvious that the marriage of Princess Cristina of Spain brought her in trouble. Or at least: didn't stop her from trouble...
Her husband, Inaki Urdangarin, has been accused of fraud and it seems that she will have to face the judge, too. I wrote about her position (Saturn inconjunct MC and later square Sun) in a post on Astropost about lost status. The couple has been removed from the official agenda. Here is a picture of the royal family, with one of the children of Cristina and Inaki, close to his grandfather.

Here I will have a look at the interaction between the charts of the Princess and her husband. Do they match?

VENUS-SATURN
First of all: they have a mutual Saturn-Venus square synastry. His Saturn is square her Venus. Her Saturn is square his Venus. It means that in their composite chart, Venus will be square Saturn, too. The Venus-Saturn combination doesn't easily divorce or separate. Saturn sticks like glue, because there are always debts, mortgages, parents or children to be considered. It isn't the kind of aspect that makes you dream about 'happy ever after'. It is more a marriage of convenience. The afflicted Saturn in her 7th house of marriage perhaps warns for the disadvantages of marriage and for the wrong partner or his mistakes.
Divorce remains possible. Even more, because they don't seem to be 'made for each other'.

SYNASTRY
1. Her Sun is inconjunct his Sun. It means that basically their sun signs don't match. They noticed each other, but living together as one (Sun) is difficult, because of lack of balance or a barrier between the two. Who is the boss and who will be subjected to the other? That is also the question.
2. Their Moon signs don't match, either. It means that it will be hard to live in one house or family, as they have different habits and needs. Avoiding each other must not be difficult in a palace, however…
3. Her Venus 157.5 degrees his Venus…that is combination of a sesquisquare and a half semi square meaning frustration. However , they like and love each other in spite of difficulties.
4. The Mars signs are opposite, but there is no aspect between there Mars. Her Mars is trine his Sun: she will be able to match up with him and he is the kind of man that she is attracted to.
5. His Pluto is square her Sun. That is a symbol of dominance and more or less forced upon change. It was a matter of 'being impressed' and that is always also a matter of one person dominating the other one.
6. His Neptune quindecile her Midheaven perhaps illustrates how her position was obsessively related to his dreams.
7. Her Mars on his Descendant links his partnership to her idea of what a man should be like. Mars can be very stimulating.

Mr. Urdangarin married a Princess. In a way his chart is corresponding to those of female royal spouses: there is a Sun-Saturn aspect (the quintile in this case).

The couple doesn't match, but they drew each other's attention and they liked each other. That is how it started. But how will it end?

LINKS
About Saturn in love and relationships: http://www.astromarkt.net/saturn-in-love.html
About the Spanish king and his wife and their synastry: http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.nl/2012/04/famous-couple-juan-carlos-and-sofia-of.html
About the next (?) Spanish king Felipe and his wife: http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.nl/2012/04/famous-couple-crown-prince-felipe-and.html

EXTERNAL LINK
Notice a blog especially about the Borbones: http://spanishroyals.wordpress.com
News about the case: http://article.wn.com/view/2013/04/05/Court_case_adds_to_woes_of_Spanish_royal_family/#/related_news

Famous couple: Crown Prince Felipe and his wife Letizia of Spain

This is the chart of Letizia, Crown Princess of Spain. The ‘ transits’ are the natal positions of her husband, Felipe, with exception of the Moon and his Ascendant and Midheaven (he has the Moon in the 20th degree of Aquarius, square the Ascendant in 20th degree of Taurus and Midheaven in the last degree of Capricorn). What occurs to me first is that Letizia has the Sun square Saturn, a difficult aspect when it comes to restrictions and status, just like Dutch Crown Princess Maxima and the Belgian Crown Princess. Letizia has 2 of the 4 indications for divorce in a woman's chart (Sun conjunct Mars and Mars exactly square Saturn) and Uranus is in her 7th house. First I thoughht that this was a risk for this marriage, but (see comments!): she was married before! Felipe doesn’t have the indications for divorce in a man’s chart. He has Neptune in the 7th house.

MATCH?
The interaction between the positions of Princess and Prince (the aspects between the charts) tell us about the connection between them. So:

How does the next Spanish royal couple (Felipe and Letizia) match?

• Their Suns don’t match (sesquisquare); who's the boss 

• Their Moons match (sextile); easy getting used to each other  

• Their Mercuries don’t match (157.5 degree = sesquisquare and half semi square); communications!!! 

• Venus biquintile Venus is a match expressing a creative way to match preferences and ...they found a way to love each other in spite of differences 

• Their Mars don’t match (opposition); attraction and competition (with the risk of fighting each other if they don't cooperate).

The complete picture is that they don’t match easy but they are strongly connected to each other. In a way there is a similarity with the synastry of the royal couple (the parents of the prince). See that post. Continue for more...

Seal and Heidi and the not matching charts

Even when two persons' signs don't match, they can have a long time relationship. Often Venus is making a sweet aspect between the charts and than everything looks sweet, nice and attractive. Seal and Heidi Klum never had matching charts. They were together long enough to become parents. Venus quatronovile (160d) Venus was of great help and so was his Mars biquintile her Mars. They had a good time, but now it is over. Here is the chart of the day of birth of Seal. The transits (the positions outside the circle) are Heidi's. 

His Sun in Pisces, hers in Gemini

Those signs  - and life styles - don’t match. Who is the boss? Who is the one getting attention?

Her Moon in Gemini and his in Sagittarius or Capriocorn. No match. They have to make compromises to live in the same room.

The signs of their Mercury are Aquarius and Gemini. The Mercury’s don’t make a nasty aspect, so they seem to be able to communicate.

Venus quatronovile Venus is great. They enjoy each other’s presence and love each other. Such an aspect helps to keep the relationship going for a long time, even if there is no match.

Mars biquintile Mars:; creative cooperation! They created 3 children!

Passion is OK and so is communication, but they have a different life style and different habits. But they also have a mutual Pluto-Sun synastry. Pluto is for intensity and intensity makes it hard when you are basically different.

Ps see for possible hour of birth Seal: http://www.astrolreport.com/famous-s/seal.php

Famous couple: Orson Welles and Rita Hayworth

This is the chart of Orson Welles. He married Rita Hayworth on a September 7 and that is why I looked at his chart. They were married for only 5 years. The 'transits' are the positions of the day of birth of Rita Hayworth. Let's see why they divorced. 

MATCH

His Sun is in Taurus and hers in Libra, in a 157.5 degree minor aspect (see: do your birthdays match?) The signs didn't match, but they drew each others attention.

The moonsigns don't match

There is no match with Mercury, either

Venus is opposition Venus (opposites are attractive) 

Mars is trine Mars (they cooperated and they were sexually attracted)

SHARING...

His Sun square Uranus and her Sun trine Uranus 

That means that they shared an aspect between Sun and Uranus.

On Astromarkt I wrote about that:

Sun and Uranus shared in aspect might indicate: joined rebellion. How long this will last in a proper family home in a suburb, especially when the aspect is hard? But in a group of inventive people or in a place where news items are made you certainly can go for ‘sensation’ together. This relationship could have an unusual start. Too much tension could lead to stress, even if the surprises are nice. Both being independent and willing to be free it will be hard to stay together as a couple. With harmonious aspects this tendency for doing things the way you want it, will be tempered and then your unique qualities come to the light, better than if you were alone. 

http://www.astromarkt.net/sharing-aspects-with-a-partner-child-enemy-or-business-partner.html

SYNASTRY

Her Jupiter square his Mars: they had a daughter together. Mars-Jupiter favors production and reproduction.

CONCLUSION

They didn't match and that is what she said, too. But they were attracted and got married and had a child. On the day that he married the progressed ascendant was inconjunct his Moon and transit Saturn on his Ascendant. Those were not exactly good signs to start with, even though the Moon is in his 7th house. As I said, he married more than once (Venus in Aries for love at first sight, Sagittarius on cusp 7 and Sun/Moon with Uranus for being motivated by change...). Here is the chart for the wedding day:

PS He was overweight (Jupiter square Ascendant) 

See about weight and astrology:

http://www.astromarkt.net/index.php?id=127

LINK

See this blog about their relationship:

http://claudia79.tripod.com/ritaorson.html

Divorce of the Schwarzeneggers

Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver will end their marriage. It was their first and it lasted for a long time. They were a married couple for 22 years. Nevertheless:  Arnold Schwarzenegger has a few indications for divorce*) and it was their first marriage. In those cases (depending on the culture of course) there is always a risk for divorce, especially when there is no economical or financial barrier to be take and when the charts don't seem to match much. It takes a lot of compensation or glue to stick together, then. All we know is that a famous couple is going to separate and that their charts are reflecting the possible (nasty) change.

The indications for possible divorce in his chart are:

Mars conjunct Uranus

Moon square Neptune

Sun in 1 conjunct ruler 7 (Saturn)

And Venus quintile Neptune (for creative romancing:)

MARIA

Maria Shriver has Venus trine Uranus (and, because of the trine, that is not supposed to be an affliction between Venus and Uranus, one of the indications for divorce in a woman's chart*) but there is more. Ruler 1 is square ruler 7 (Venus square Pluto) and she has Mars quintile Uranus. That means that Arnold and Maria share a Mars-Uranus aspect. I hope that it didn't mean that they joined short fuses! Perhaps they just loved to have controversies about politics...The Venus/Saturn = Descendant combination in Maria's chart perhaps kept them together for long. You know, Venus-Saturn sticks like glue, because of the children, the mortgage or the parents or whatever reason that you need to keep a marriage going on. 

NOW...

Now their progressed Midheavens changed sign and it was about time for another goal in life. Transit Saturn is square her progressed Sun and semi square her progressed AC/MC to illustrate the end of a period in life and separation/hard times. She had been contemplating about divorce for long but now was the time, apparently (see Uranus trine and Neptune inconjunct IC). Neptune inconjunct his progressed Mars with transit Pluto square progressed Sun and Uranus square Moon might describe the situation for Arnold (difficulties, 'surprises' and energy drain). He has recently quit politics and plans to restart a career in the movies (Pluto-Sun often reflects a come back, a new challenge).

You see that both have difficult aspects right now and that both have strong indications for change in life (the changing MC's, Uranus, Pluto). 

MATCH

This marriage didn't last forever, but it took a long time to separate. That is perhaps because of the 60% placements in fixed signs in Maria's chart (with Venus/Saturn=DC). Fixed stars don't give up easily, even if there is no match. 

Their Suns don't match, to start with (different  lifestyles). Their Moons  (and habits) don't match. Mercury doesn't understand Mercury. Venus is trine Venus, but out of sign. So they liked each other, in spite of different tastes. Mars in conflict with Mars doesn't go for peace and might be exciting or thrilling. And her Moon is in his Sunsign, and that is a traditional match. 

It is not much of a match and perhaps that is why it just had to end one day. 

LINKS

All about Sun-Pluto on Astromarkt...

All about love, relations and matching on Astromarkt...

The astrological signs of changing times on Astropost....

About the chart of Schwarzenegger on Art&Astrology...

*) Indications in male's charts:

Conflicting aspects between Moon and Saturn, Moon and Neptune, Venus and Neptune or Mars and Uranus and/or ruler 1 (or a planet in 1) with ruler 7 (or a planet in 7). Mars in Libra doesn't help either.

Indications in a woman's chart:

Conflicting aspects between Sun and Mars, Sun and Uranus, Venus and Uranus or Mars and Saturn and/or ruler 1 (or a planet in 1) with ruler 7 (or a planet in 7). Venus in Aries doesn't help either.

About sunsigns and love

Here I read that a Chinese grandmother killed her grandson because she was afraid that his zodiac sign didn't get along with the signs in the family: a bizar and cruel crime! It is almost incredible...,but I think that there are many persons who say goodbye to a new found possible partner just because they think that their sunsigns don't match. They do so, without even knowing if their birthdays DO match or if they just left a partner whose Venus was in a perfect trine with their Sun...They do so, without knowing if they share many good aspects. It is all prejudice. When sunsigns don't match (and birthdays don't either), there is a way out: be brave and try to start a relationship with someone with a different view of life. Worse, when sunsigns do match, there might be wrong moonsigns or wrong birthdays!;) So, you need to know the exact birthday and preferably the year and hour to see what's the challenge of your relationship. When it is the sunsign, it will be a challenge to live together as one. So why not be modern and have a life of your own, even though you are married:). There are a few sunsign-(mis)matches on this blog. The blue ones are with 'correct' sun signs, the red ones with not matching signs. The italic/fat couples (7) divorced. Two of them had matching sun signs. The 3 couples that didn't divorce had the 'wrong' sunsigns. It is not statistics, it is just a list that shows you that there is more about love and relationships than just sun signs! There is even more than just astrology (how about culture, age, gender?:) 

I wish that the Chinese fortune teller had told that crazy grandmother...

1. Charlie Sheen and Brook Mueller (now divorced).

They had Sun in Virgo and in Leo and that is not a good match. They also had Venus square Venus and Mars inconjunct Mars! So the sunsigns were just part of the problem.

http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2011/03/famous-couples-charlie-sheen-and-brooke.html

2.Mariah Carey and Tommy Mottola (now divorced)

had Sun in Aries and in Cancer. His Venus is in conflict with hers and so are their Mercuries. And there is more...

http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2010/10/famous-couples-mariah-carey-tommy.html

3.  John Edward and Elizabeth Edwards don't have matching sunsigns and her Venus is in Taurus, his in Leo...no match. There are more signs of conflicts and eventually they divorced.

http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2010/10/famous-couples-mariah-carey-tommy.html

4. Nancy and Ronald Reagan didn't have matching sunsigns. But they were a couple, weren't they?

http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2010/02/famous-couples-nancy-and-ronald-reagan.html

5. Ike was a Scorpio, Tina is a Sagittarius and their Suns were 22.5 (half semi square) apart. But the worst affliction is Mars square Mars and his Mars on her Sun: that is for competition and fighting (too much fire). 

http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2010/02/famous-couples-nancy-and-ronald-reagan.html

6. Al and Tipper Gore spent decades together, but now the marriage ended. Their sunsigns matched!

http://astropost.blogspot.com/2010/06/al-and-tipper-gore-are-separating.html

7. Dutch Princess Margarita married the wrong man with the right sun sign...

http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2009/11/famous-couple-margarita-and-edwin.html

8. An interesting case of Sun conjunct Sun in different signs is the marriage of Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson.

http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2009/09/famous-couples-edward-viii-and-wallis.html

9. Princess Margaret and Anthony Armstrong Jones didn't have matching sunsigns and they divorced. Their Mercuries and Venus didn't match either. 

http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2009/06/famous-couples-princess-margaret-and.html

10. Meryl Streep and Don Gummer are Cancer and Sagittarius and they are married since 1978. Their Moons, Mercury, Mars and Jupiter are a mismatch, too. But Venus is trine Venus:

'Goodwill and willingness to bend', Meryl Streep said. And there is one great aspect that shows goodwill: VENUS exactly TRINE VENUS. That harmonious aspect between the planet of love makes it easy to love each other. It is a very nice aspect in a relationship! Venus trine Venus for 'Goodwill and willingness to bend' is a benefit for any relationship:)! As you see from this example, Venus (= luv:) helps to overcome many differences!

http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2009/12/famous-couple-meryl-streep-and-don.html

When sunsigns match it is no guarantee for eternal love. When sunsigns don't match, it could still work and be 'eternal'  with a little love. 

LINKS

http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2009/09/exceptions-of-not-matching-sun-signs.html 

ASTROMARKT ABOUT LOVE

http://www.astromarkt.net/index.php?id=115

Famous couples: Charlie Sheen and Brooke Mueller

A couple of years ago Charlie Sheen married Brooke Mueller (see Wikipedia) and she is the mother of their twin. Their divorce will be effective in May 2011. But before, did they match? No, they didn't. 

MATCHING SIGNS?

Sun in Virgo (his), Sun in Leo (hers): NO, for different lifestyles

Moon in Sagittaris (his) is OK for Moon in Libra:YES for compatible habits

Mercury in Leo (his) Mercury in Virgo (hers):NO, for disagreeing

Venus square Venus (they were attracted to each other, but they have conflicting desires, different sympathies and tastes): NO (but attracted, yes)

Mars in Scorpio with Mars in Gemini:NO (difficulties)

There was little 'agreement'  between the charts. Their sunsigns didn't match and there was no compensation for it (Venus could have been the symbol of that).

SHARED ASPECTS

When you share aspects, you share the same characteristics or experiences. 

Both have a Sun-Saturn aspect, so what they share is...responsibility (parenthood, for example). The twin will connect, forever. Quoting Astromarkt:

Sun and Saturn shared makes you worry a lot if the aspect is hard. Maybe you do this, due to sharing nasty life experiences or feeling the same limitations and responsibilities. Nice trines or sextiles make you the serious couple, the parents perhaps. You go for a long time relationship and for getting old together and you are consistent in that! Your perseverence is highlghted.

They both have Sun sextile Mars and are both ready to stand up for themselves. Is that good or bad...:) Quoting Astromarkt:

Sharing Sun and Mars in aspect is: competition. Who is the boss and the best? If harmonious you do sports together or you play a lot together.  Sharing Sun-Mars points at the same kind of work and drives. But if in conflict there is a lot of struggle between the both of you and you must learn to cooperate or separate. In a relationship sexuality might be the battleground. Your work and arguments are highlighted.

SYNASTRY

His Venus is on her Moon, so they fell in love...

His Moon is trine her Sun, and that could have been good. The result is that they started family life...

Her Uranus is on his Mars and that is a wake-up call for his already prominent aggression. This relationship had a 'short fuse'. See Astromarkt...

Her Uranus is square his Midheaven: she changes his position and reputation

Here is his chart with her positions in green (the 'transits'):

The story of their relationship seems to include all that was possible to happen: starting a family, becoming parents and having so much difficulties and disagreements that it almost inevitably ended in a divorce. 

LINKS

See Astromarkt about love, matching, relationships and more here...

More famous couples? Click the label.

Matching signs and famous couple Boyd/Clapton

Astromarkt has been restyled. So has the article about matching signs. The address changed, too. Here is the link:
http://astromarkt.net/index.php?id=98 

When signs don't match it is a challenge to continue the relationship. Famous examples of not matching signs are Pattie Boyd and Eric Clapton. This famous couple divorced. Four years ago Pattie Boyd wrote a book about the marriage. It seems to have been her 'revenge' on Eric Clapton (see the news of 2006).

Pattie Boyd is born 17th March 1944 (time unknown) and she divorced Eric Clapton (30 March 1945, 20h55 in Ripley Surray, UK). They did not match much. Here is the (DD-rated so time is not official!) natal chart of Eric Clapton by Astrodatabank with the transits of the day of birth of Pattie Boyd. 

He is an Aries, she is a Pisces (-); they are fundamentely different.


He is a Moon Scorpio, she is Moon Sagittarius (-) and that doesn't make it easy to get used to living together.


He is Mercury in Aries, she in Pisces (-); that is causing differences of opinion and interests.


Venus sextile Venus (+) so they liked each other...


Mars in Pisces for him, in Gemini for her (-) for fire first and fighting later. There are many of such examples on this blog.


Her Sun is biquintile his Moon (+) for a creative way to became a couple.


His Venus inconjunct her Neptunus (-) for lost illusions.


His Mars square her Uranus and inconjunct her Neptunus (--) and that is no good...


His Jupiter square her Saturn (-) is for ups and downs.


His Neptune parallel her Sun (+) for romance.


That is a lot of not matching planets and lights...

Refreshed: Jennifer Aniston and John Mayer

The post about the couple Anniston-Mayer has been refreshed. See it here...

The marriages of Princess Anne of England

Princess Anne of England married twice. Her natal charts has 3 out of the 4 indications for divorce for women*) and a conflict between the rulers of the 1^st and 7^th house. That is enough for at least one divorce. This post is about the matches.

FIRST MARRIAGE

Princess Anne’s first husband, the father of her children, is Mark Philips, an Olympic medal winnig horseman. They married on November 14, 1973 and divorced in 1992.During their marriage he had an affair and fathered a daughter (in August 1985). This was confirmed by a DNA-test in 1991, soon after her progressed Venus conjunct Saturn (an astrological statement for a depression in a marriage).

Anne and Mark didn’t match much from the start. Their Mars and Moons were in the ‘right’ signs, but their Sun signs, Mercuries and Venus didn’t match. They had children together, but they didn’t like each other much in the end. 

BTW His Jupiter was trine her Sun and that is mirroring support and trust. Apparently that doesn’t mean that a person will be faithful and true. It just means that one of the partners puts her/his trust in the other one (and we don’t know if that was the right thing to do). 

Here you see the chart of Anne with the positions of Mark Philips.

SECOND MARRIAGE

Princess Anne’s present husband is Tim Laurence. They aren’t married in the Church of England, because this Church (with the Queen as leader) doesn’t allow marriage after divorce.  (Watch Uranus in the 9^th house for this. It is an indication for a change in conviction or religion).

They married on December 12,1992 and are still together, in spite of their synastry. The Venus opposition Venus, Mars opposition Mars and his Neptune square her Venus is pointing at a passionate and romantic start and risking later ups and downs, competition or even fights.  Or perhaps they manage to control that in trying to beat each other in sports:).

When she got married her Progressed Sun was sextile the Midheaven and inconjunct Jupiter. Transit Pluto and Pallas were on the progressed Ascendant. Also T Jupiter was inconjunct Venus. I guess that that aspect is reflecting the wedding partyJ.

Here you see the Princess’ chart with the transits and progressions of her wedding day.

 *) The indications for divorce/not getting married in a woman's chart are:

Sun-Mars, Mars-Saturn, Sun-Uranus and Venus-Uranus aspect combinations (in particular the hard aspects). 

The indications for males are: Moon-Saturn, Moon-Neptune, Venus-Neptune and Mars-Uranus.

Famous couples: John and Elizabeth Edwards & John Edwards and Rielle Hunter

Former candidate for the USA presidency, John Edwards tried to keep it a secret and he denied for a long time that he is the father of the baby of his lover, Rielle Hunter. John Edwards is now divorcing his wife (who is a breast cancer patient). Why does this happen? Is it just because he is rich and famous, or are there indications in the natal chart? Or both? Indications for divorce in the chart of men are afflictions of the Moon with Saturn and Neptune, Venus in hard aspect with Neptune, Mars afflicted by Uranus and/or afflictions between the houses 1 and 7. We see a number of those afflictions in the chart of John Edwards.

1. Moon with Saturn and Neptune

The Moon sesquisquare Saturn and Neptune seems to be very appropriate considering the fact that his wife is seriously ill.  Saturn-Neptune is the combination of illnesses, too.

The aspects of the Moon with Saturn and Neptune are also two of the four indications that the astrologer Ram mentioned as indicative for possible divorce (or not marrying at all) in the charts of males.

2. Venus and Neptune: a quindecile

John Edwards has Venus quindecile Neptune (and Saturn)! That is 3!

3. In the Astrodatabank chart Cancer is on the Ascendant. The dispositor of Cancer is the Moon. The seventh house is ruled by Saturn as Capricorn is on the cusp of the Descendant. Moon and Saturn are sesquisquare! Afflictions between the rulers of the first and seventh house are also difficult for a marriage.

WHY A LONGLASTING MARRIAGE?

Capricorn on the seventh house might have kept him in a marriage because of responsibilities, parenthood or other obligations. Capricon is for consistency! And for keeping up appearances, too. Ruler 7^th house, Saturn, is in Libra. Libra is the sign of 'being together'. The position of Saturn in Libra might prolongue relationships (good and bad ones).

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ASTROLOGICAL EXCUSES

John Edwards is a good looking Mr. Nice Guy and probably well to do. That is attracting a lot of ladies. With Moon in Gemini conjunct Jupiter rising before the Sun, he is the popular and positive looking guy. John Edwards also has Venus quintile Uranus, so he has a creative desire for 'something new', 'excitement' and adventures. Uranus is on the Ascendant shows the individualistic approach and an independent and free presentation. The unbearable load of being married, in the chart of good looking individualist...that is asking for problems. It may be lonely at the top sometimes, but not alone!:) Here is the chart. The positions on the outside of the circle ('transits') are the positions of the day of birth of Elizabeth:

Look at Mars (square MC): Mars is not making aspects within 5 degrees orb. Mars is 'calling', reflecting energy (drive, work or sex) at any possible level. Jupiter is rising before the Sun and Mars is 'calling': that is a statement for success in life and.. for reproduction. He officially has five children now.

There are probably a lot of astrological 'excuses', but I think that Saturn ruling the 7th in Libra and quindecile Venus is the key to sticking to an outdated marriage.

Of course, a man who has so many indications for divorce will not marry a perfectly matching partner. I don't want to sound cynical, but there must be room to fail, as it seems. That is why there is little match with Elizabeth.

MATCH WITH WIFE ELIZABETH

She is a Cancer, he is a Gemini…no match

His Moon in Gemini, hers in Libra…match (their families and habits match)

His Mercury in Cancer, hers in Gemini…no match (differences of opinion)

(Her Mercury is conjunct his Sun, btw)

His Venus in Taurus, hers in Leo,…no match (different styles and sympathies)

His Mars in Gemini, so is hers…match! But it is Mars. And Mars conjunct Mars might be regarded as an affliction when it comes to disagreement...

SYNASTRY WITH ELIZABETH

Her Pholus is sesquisquare his Sun/Moon as if she is shooting her feet by marrying him or that the marriage was a turning point in her life.

Her Neptune is exactly square his Ascendant and that means that she doesn’t see him clearly as he is. Disappointment might follow...

MATCH WITH RIELLE HUNTER

He is a Gemini, she is a Pisces or Aries…Match?

The Moons are in the same sign…Match

Mercury square Mercury…differences of opinion

Venus in same sign…Match

Mars in Gemini square Mars in Pisces (first hot attraction, fighting each other later, competition)

It is a lot of attraction and ...a lot of discussions....

Here is the chart of John Edwards again, this time with the ('transit') position of Rielle Hunter.

LINKS
See the earlier post about John and Rielle...

About hard aspects between Moon and Saturn (also an aspect for 'keeping up appearances')...For more famous couples, see the labels \/

(c) http://astropost.blogspot.com

Famous couple: Naomi Campbell and Mike Tyson

An Astropost.blogspot.com there is more about the chart of Naomi Campbell...In short: there is a 'finger pointing' at Venus (symbol of beauty) in a yod of Venus, Neptune and Ascendant that could be read as 'beauty and the art of presenting yourself'. Here are some astrological reasons for the reason why she has not married (yet):
1. Sun half semi square Mars (traditional difficult affliction for living with a man, being independent)-
2. Venus square Uranus (out of sign; one of the afflictions that the astrologer Ram found in the charts of divorced or never married women)


It takes 2 to get married, but it takes 3 to tango, so what more is there? I see Sun trine Uranus (making it easy to be independent and free). Still: the double bodied Venus in Gemini and ruler 7 in Sagittarius perhaps simply refer to the number of serious relationships that she had and will have. And Venus-Mars in the 5th house is a statement for passion. We'll see if a miracle happens...
 
But let's have a look at the match with former lover Mike Tyson.

MATCH WITH MIKE TYSON
She never married but she did have a relationship with Mike Tyson once. They separated. The interaction between their charts shows attraction and the reasons for the fact that it was not an everlasting love.

• They share a Sagittarius Moon (and felt like friends)
• They share a Gemini Venus (and had the same preferences,maybe loved to dance together?)
• They had Mars conjunct Mars! A strong sexual attraction, but also strong competition and the risk of fighting each other

BUT:

• The Sun signs don't match, so their life styles didn't match
• His Saturn was square her Venus (a love with limitations)
• His Jupiter inconjunct her Moon (pleasant moments, but...)

Read what their driver says about this relationship http://ronmwangaguhunga.blogspot.com/2004/01/mike-tyson-and-naomi-campbell-i.html