Famous couple Danny DeVito and Rhea Pearlman

Danny De Vito and Rhea Perlman were married for a long time. But now the end of their marriage is near.  Here, to see the aspects between their charts (the synastry) is the chart of Danny De Vito and the transits are the positions on the day of birth of Rhea Perlman.

THE VENUS-SATURN GLUE
They say that the divorce was ten years in the making! What keeps a couple together (in spite of whatever) is a Venus-Saturn connection. Venus-Saturn makes you stick to a lover like a stamp to a letter. It is because you take love seriously and because obligations (mortgage or parenthood) keep you together. I wrote about that before (see that blog on Astropost).

There is a mutual Venus-Saturn synastry between Danny DeVito and Rhea Pearlman. His Saturn is semi square her Venus. Her Saturn is sesquisquare his Venus.


THE SUN-SATURN SYNASTRY
Danny DeVito has Sun sesquisquare Saturn. There is a wide trine between Sun and Saturn in Rhea Pearlman's chart. When a couple shares Sun-Saturn aspects, that (quoting Astromarkt)

...makes you worry a lot if the aspect is hard. Maybe you do this, due to sharing nasty life experiences or feeling the same limitations and responsibilities. Nice trines or sextiles make you the serious couple, the parents perhaps. You go for a long time relationship and for getting old together and you are consistent in that! Your perseverance is highlighted. 

That is the second key to what kept them together for so long!

However, Saturn (his) opposition Sun (hers) already warns about growing apart (after a long long time).  The fact that his Sun is sesquisquare Saturn and the synastry between them, shows the importance of this particular marriage.

THE SUM OF IT ALL
It is easy to see the other + and - in the synastry.

- There sun signs didn't match (Scorpio and Aries) but they noticed each other (there is a sesquisquare between their suns). It is harder to stay married in such a case.
+ - Her Venus opposition his Mars is a traditional indication of passion but the opposition might cause a problem
+ They share the same moon sign and that makes it easy to feel close.
+ Watch the biquintile between his Venus and hers: they found a creative way to love, in spite of their not corresponding sun signs and in spite of the not matching signs of Mars.
- Mars square Mars (fire at first, arguing later)
+ Her Jupiter on his Ascendant (for support and making each other happy)

When you see the + and -, the sum of it all seems to be that Mars square Mars did it, in the end. Mars is prominent in his chart (rising before the Sun) and her Chiron is conjunct his Mars. There are a number of Mars-Mars afflictions in the posts about divorces on this blog. It is about FIRE! With fire you might get hurt. 

NATAL CHARTS
It is more difficult to stay married, when you have 2 or more hard aspects like (for a woman) Sun-Uranus, Venus-Uranus, Mars-Saturn or Sun-Mars. Rhea has Mars conjunct Saturn, which is one of the 4 aspects found in the charts of divorced women. But only one…! She also has Sun quintile Uranus, making it easy to be independent.

Danny has a Gemini descendant (a double sign on the house of marriages) and ruler Mercury is inconjunct Saturn in the 7th house. That is a 'circumstantial' affliction. Mercury inconjunct Saturn is about having to say goodbye, a departure with a loss. Saturn in the 7th house doesn't make it too easy to be married, but isn't necessarily a sign of divorce, unless afflicted. His Saturn IS afflicted by the Sun, Mercury and Neptune. There are no ' usual suspects' like afflictions between Moon-Saturn or Moon-Neptune, Mars-Uranus or Venus-Neptune, ruler 1 and ruler 7.

There were very little indications of divorce, only Mars-Mars affliction. But, let us (as always) consider circumstances. Danny DeVito is a rich man and surrounded by beautiful women. That makes it hard to be true...

PS
But why now? Here is the progressed chart of Danny DeVito.

In the progressed chart Venus is conjunct Ascendant for Danny DeVito. I wonder why. Maybe there is new love on the horizon? Maybe all women want to meet him, now that he is available?:)
 It happens to be the kind of aspect that you would expect in the chart of someone who marries, not divorces. I wonder how YOU see that.


LINKS
http://astromarkt.net/sharing-aspects.html
About having the same aspect combination as your partner

http://www.astromarkt.net/venus-in-aspect-with-saturn.html

http://www.astromarkt.net/love-and-astrology.html
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Divorce Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise

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This week it was hot news that Katie Holmes left Tom Cruise. It is his third divorce. It is her first time.  I first planned to tell you all about it, but after writing it down, I decided to keep most of it to myself, to stick to the pictures and just tell you this:
a. They never matched at all. Their signs don't match. And his Sun is quindecile her Sun: that is an obsessive aspect and a hard one. Their charts weren't made for each other.
b. They both have a Mars-Uranus aspect. In short: hurry hurry hurry and boom! Her Venus-Uranus aspect warns for marrying too quickly with the wrong person.
c. When she married him she had Pluto on her Sun. His Pluto is in hard aspect with her Sun/Moon midpoint. This usually complicates a relationship.

For the purpose of study we have the Astrodienst AA-rated chart of Katie Holmes and the day of birth of Tom Cruise. We also know when they got married. Here are the charts. 

A chart of Katie Holmes. The ' transits ' are the positions of the day of birth of Tom Cruise.

Above is the chart, progressed chart and transits of Katie Holmes on her wedding day.  There are a lot of transits and progressions. Like this one: the Progressed Ascendant is conjunct Saturn! When Orson Welles married Rita Hayworth, transit Saturn was on his Ascendant. The marriage didn't last. (see: http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.nl/2011/09/famous-couple-orson-welles-and-rita.html)

There was a rumor about Katie wanting to move out of the family house, in 2008 (see the post: http://astropost.blogspot.nl/2008/07/house-and-chart-of-tom-cruise-and-katie.html ) 

And now she left.

• Then her Sun sign was changing sign to Aquarius
• Her progressed Venus got inconjunct her Midheaven
• Progressed Sun conjunct Progressed Mars. 
• Transit Pholus now square progressed Ascendant/Midheaven midpoint 
• Transit Uranus trine Jupiter. 
• The Uranus-Pluto (revolutionary) square hits her Jupiter and ...her Sun/Moon.
• Transit Uranus is quindecile her Sun/Moon midpoint now (=a strong focus on change in marriage and motivation). 
• According to her husband it came as a complete surprise. For this, I like to point at Transit Uranus quatronovile the Progressed Ascendant (rejoicing a surprising act:). 

LESSON

About aspects:

Inconjunctions between charts make it hard to maintain a balance between the two of you. Squares ad opposition at first seem to attract the 'opposite' but don't make it as easy as trines and sextiles to stick together. Conjunctions join you, but sometimes they join what you don't want (for example your sunny Sun and his Pluto). Quindeciles often cause obsession. Quintiles offer creative solutions in case of differences and noviles help you to see the good things in the partner. 

About planets:

Pholus creates a point of no return. Uranus comes by surprise. And Saturn as a guest on your wedding day is usually not invited!

See the label for more examples of divorce.

PS 

The astrological pattern of professional artistic talent in the chart of Katie Holmes is in the Moon square Venus and trine Neptune, with Midheaven square Moon, opposition venus and biquintile Neptune. The 'calling' Sun with the Moon and Ascendant in Leo will always make Katie Holmes shine and look brilliant wherever she is,with or without Tom Cruise. 

Seal and Heidi and the not matching charts

Even when two persons' signs don't match, they can have a long time relationship. Often Venus is making a sweet aspect between the charts and than everything looks sweet, nice and attractive. Seal and Heidi Klum never had matching charts. They were together long enough to become parents. Venus quatronovile (160d) Venus was of great help and so was his Mars biquintile her Mars. They had a good time, but now it is over. Here is the chart of the day of birth of Seal. The transits (the positions outside the circle) are Heidi's. 

His Sun in Pisces, hers in Gemini

Those signs  - and life styles - don’t match. Who is the boss? Who is the one getting attention?

Her Moon in Gemini and his in Sagittarius or Capriocorn. No match. They have to make compromises to live in the same room.

The signs of their Mercury are Aquarius and Gemini. The Mercury’s don’t make a nasty aspect, so they seem to be able to communicate.

Venus quatronovile Venus is great. They enjoy each other’s presence and love each other. Such an aspect helps to keep the relationship going for a long time, even if there is no match.

Mars biquintile Mars:; creative cooperation! They created 3 children!

Passion is OK and so is communication, but they have a different life style and different habits. But they also have a mutual Pluto-Sun synastry. Pluto is for intensity and intensity makes it hard when you are basically different.

Ps see for possible hour of birth Seal: http://www.astrolreport.com/famous-s/seal.php

Famous couple: Brigitte Bardot and Roger Vadim

When I wrote about the charts of beautiful women I forgot to mention one of the most well known symbols of female attraction: Brigitte Bardot. Brigitte is a Libra with it’s ruler Venus in a wide sextile with Pluto and inconjunct Saturn. That is in line with the Venus-Saturn-Pluto combinations that I found in the charts of other beauties. It hurts to remain beautiful:). 

Here is the chart of the ‘star’, born with an unaspected Sun. This ‘calling’  Sun symbolizes drawing attention (performance and show). The Sun makes a minor aspect with Neptune (22.5 degree half semi square). Sun-Neptune combinations (see Astromarkt) are not uncommon in the charts of actors, animal lovers and those with a ‘double identity’, like actors have. They are idols and not always who we think that they are.

Chart of Brigitte Bardot and in green the natal positions of Roger Vadim

ROGER

She married Roger Vadim, the man who brought her to fame, when she was only 18. They stayed together for 5 years and then divorced. That is interesting, because their sun signs were a match (5^th degree Libra – 5^th degree Aquarius)! So what is it that ended their relationship anyway?

1. Their moon signs didn’t match (Gemini and Pisces) 

2. Neither did their Venus positions (Virgo and Sagittarius)

3. Her fiery Mars in Leo was no match for the controlled Mars in Capricorn of Vadim. 

4. He may have idolized her (his Neptune semi square her Midheaven) and when it comes to reality, Neptune fades away...

5. His Pluto inconjunct her Ascendant might be a difficult aspect to handle.

Maybe this all was too complicated, even though there are a lot of aspects with her Ascendant. For example: his Juno was square her Ascendant (she might have been the perfect woman for him at first sight) and his Sedna (symbol of the daughter, young woman) was trine her Ascendant. He may have idolized her (his Neptune semi square her Midheaven). Perhaps that is why the movie that he directed was named 'And God created women'. 

There were too many obstacles and there was not enough love (Venus) to compensate for that. Vadim married more than once. Moon square Saturn and Mars square Uranus are two of the indications for divorce in a man’s chart. Bardot has Mars opposition Saturn and a double bodied sign on the seventh house cusp to illustrate the risk of divorce or separation. She married three times. She is now still married with number three, a right conservative politician.

ACTING

What in her chart characterizes her as an actress? First let us see the circumstances and situation when she started. She was born rich and beautiful and had the chance to be seen in places where the rich and famous had their holidays. In those circumstances she drew attention (Sun is ‘calling’). She was orientated on the non-material side of life (ideals, faith or fantasy). The important Moon opposition Ascendant tells us about attraction and sense of what the people want and need. The prominence of Sun and Moon show the prominence of motivation. She is a star (Sun) and popular (Moon). The midpoint Sun/Moon = Node (that means that the community, family or groups motivate her).

The Moon is square Neptune (for sensitivity) and sesquisquare Jupiter (for the need for success)…Moon with Jupiter and Neptune helps you get fans and followers. The Moon is also semi square Pluto. Jupiter-Pluto combinations are indicative for success. Her popularity is evident. The Moon in Gemini (feeling young forever) appealed to the public.

It is clearly the picture of a popular star. The pattern of artistic professional talent is like this:

Venus and Neptune rising before the Libra Sun, a Libra MC and a Moon square Neptune. Midheaven completes the pattern (Venus half semi square Midheaven, Midheaven in aspect with Moon and Neptune).

Her professional activities where in the artistic field. She was (and is still) very photogenic.

LINK

http://astropost.blogspot.com/2010/09/charts-of-beautiful-women-and-venus.html

Divorce of the Schwarzeneggers

Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver will end their marriage. It was their first and it lasted for a long time. They were a married couple for 22 years. Nevertheless:  Arnold Schwarzenegger has a few indications for divorce*) and it was their first marriage. In those cases (depending on the culture of course) there is always a risk for divorce, especially when there is no economical or financial barrier to be take and when the charts don't seem to match much. It takes a lot of compensation or glue to stick together, then. All we know is that a famous couple is going to separate and that their charts are reflecting the possible (nasty) change.

The indications for possible divorce in his chart are:

Mars conjunct Uranus

Moon square Neptune

Sun in 1 conjunct ruler 7 (Saturn)

And Venus quintile Neptune (for creative romancing:)

MARIA

Maria Shriver has Venus trine Uranus (and, because of the trine, that is not supposed to be an affliction between Venus and Uranus, one of the indications for divorce in a woman's chart*) but there is more. Ruler 1 is square ruler 7 (Venus square Pluto) and she has Mars quintile Uranus. That means that Arnold and Maria share a Mars-Uranus aspect. I hope that it didn't mean that they joined short fuses! Perhaps they just loved to have controversies about politics...The Venus/Saturn = Descendant combination in Maria's chart perhaps kept them together for long. You know, Venus-Saturn sticks like glue, because of the children, the mortgage or the parents or whatever reason that you need to keep a marriage going on. 

NOW...

Now their progressed Midheavens changed sign and it was about time for another goal in life. Transit Saturn is square her progressed Sun and semi square her progressed AC/MC to illustrate the end of a period in life and separation/hard times. She had been contemplating about divorce for long but now was the time, apparently (see Uranus trine and Neptune inconjunct IC). Neptune inconjunct his progressed Mars with transit Pluto square progressed Sun and Uranus square Moon might describe the situation for Arnold (difficulties, 'surprises' and energy drain). He has recently quit politics and plans to restart a career in the movies (Pluto-Sun often reflects a come back, a new challenge).

You see that both have difficult aspects right now and that both have strong indications for change in life (the changing MC's, Uranus, Pluto). 

MATCH

This marriage didn't last forever, but it took a long time to separate. That is perhaps because of the 60% placements in fixed signs in Maria's chart (with Venus/Saturn=DC). Fixed stars don't give up easily, even if there is no match. 

Their Suns don't match, to start with (different  lifestyles). Their Moons  (and habits) don't match. Mercury doesn't understand Mercury. Venus is trine Venus, but out of sign. So they liked each other, in spite of different tastes. Mars in conflict with Mars doesn't go for peace and might be exciting or thrilling. And her Moon is in his Sunsign, and that is a traditional match. 

It is not much of a match and perhaps that is why it just had to end one day. 

LINKS

All about Sun-Pluto on Astromarkt...

All about love, relations and matching on Astromarkt...

The astrological signs of changing times on Astropost....

About the chart of Schwarzenegger on Art&Astrology...

*) Indications in male's charts:

Conflicting aspects between Moon and Saturn, Moon and Neptune, Venus and Neptune or Mars and Uranus and/or ruler 1 (or a planet in 1) with ruler 7 (or a planet in 7). Mars in Libra doesn't help either.

Indications in a woman's chart:

Conflicting aspects between Sun and Mars, Sun and Uranus, Venus and Uranus or Mars and Saturn and/or ruler 1 (or a planet in 1) with ruler 7 (or a planet in 7). Venus in Aries doesn't help either.

Famous couples: Charlie Sheen and Brooke Mueller

A couple of years ago Charlie Sheen married Brooke Mueller (see Wikipedia) and she is the mother of their twin. Their divorce will be effective in May 2011. But before, did they match? No, they didn't. 

MATCHING SIGNS?

Sun in Virgo (his), Sun in Leo (hers): NO, for different lifestyles

Moon in Sagittaris (his) is OK for Moon in Libra:YES for compatible habits

Mercury in Leo (his) Mercury in Virgo (hers):NO, for disagreeing

Venus square Venus (they were attracted to each other, but they have conflicting desires, different sympathies and tastes): NO (but attracted, yes)

Mars in Scorpio with Mars in Gemini:NO (difficulties)

There was little 'agreement'  between the charts. Their sunsigns didn't match and there was no compensation for it (Venus could have been the symbol of that).

SHARED ASPECTS

When you share aspects, you share the same characteristics or experiences. 

Both have a Sun-Saturn aspect, so what they share is...responsibility (parenthood, for example). The twin will connect, forever. Quoting Astromarkt:

Sun and Saturn shared makes you worry a lot if the aspect is hard. Maybe you do this, due to sharing nasty life experiences or feeling the same limitations and responsibilities. Nice trines or sextiles make you the serious couple, the parents perhaps. You go for a long time relationship and for getting old together and you are consistent in that! Your perseverence is highlghted.

They both have Sun sextile Mars and are both ready to stand up for themselves. Is that good or bad...:) Quoting Astromarkt:

Sharing Sun and Mars in aspect is: competition. Who is the boss and the best? If harmonious you do sports together or you play a lot together.  Sharing Sun-Mars points at the same kind of work and drives. But if in conflict there is a lot of struggle between the both of you and you must learn to cooperate or separate. In a relationship sexuality might be the battleground. Your work and arguments are highlighted.

SYNASTRY

His Venus is on her Moon, so they fell in love...

His Moon is trine her Sun, and that could have been good. The result is that they started family life...

Her Uranus is on his Mars and that is a wake-up call for his already prominent aggression. This relationship had a 'short fuse'. See Astromarkt...

Her Uranus is square his Midheaven: she changes his position and reputation

Here is his chart with her positions in green (the 'transits'):

The story of their relationship seems to include all that was possible to happen: starting a family, becoming parents and having so much difficulties and disagreements that it almost inevitably ended in a divorce. 

LINKS

See Astromarkt about love, matching, relationships and more here...

More famous couples? Click the label.

Famous couples Mariah Carey, Tommy Mottola and Nick Cannon

Mariah Carey is pregnant and married to Nick Cannon, whose Ceres (symbol of motherhood, genes and seeds) is conjunct her Ascendant. Before, Mariah Carey married and divorced TOMMY MOTTOLA, her first producer. She met him in 1988. Here is her chart with his positions in green:

They didn't match much. Her sun in Aries, his in Cancer. Her Moon in Sagittarius, his in Pisces. Her Mercury in Aries, his in Cancer. Her Mars in Taurus is novile his in Gemini (and the novile is for joy), but Venus 112.5 (square and half semi square) Venus separated their ideas about style. Notice that his Saturn is inconjunct her Midheaven. Saturn is the symbol of age, restrictions and goodbye's. The story goes that he restricted her in many ways. After the divorce she started dressing more sexy than ever. Anyway, she divorced (natal Sun opposition Uranus, Venus quindecile Uranus; two out of the four indications for possible divorce in the chart of women...*).

BTW Sun opposition Uranus is on the vertical line in the chart (the MC-IC axis). She divorced the man who made her a star, after alienation.

NICK CANNON
Her second husband is much younger than her first. Nick Cannon was born October 8, 1980. That is about 30 years younger and he is also 10 years younger than Mariah is. This is her chart with his positions on the outside.

Their Suns don't match. He is a Libra, she is an Aries.


Their Moons match (Sagittarius and Libra)

Their Mercuries don't match (Mercury inconjunct Mercury)

Venus doesn't match with Venus (Aries and Virgo)

Mars doesn't match Mars (Taurus and Scorpio)

So I am afraid that their charts are not very compatible...As they ARE together, there must be other links between them. How about his Saturn on her IC? (Remember her former husband's Saturn inconjunct her MC? Saturn is the ruler of her seventh house of marriage...). And very,very important in the light of her pregnancy (announced yesterday, see date of this post) is:

HIS CERES ON HER ASCENDANT

Ceres is the symbol of motherhood, genes and seed. And there is more...

His Pluto is also quindecile her Sun. His Pluto is opposition her Venus. That is about fascination, 'a spell'....His Venus is inconjunct her Midheaven, perhaps for disproportional adoration:) So no matching signs (and different views, ideas and tastes) but fascination instead. The combiation of her Sun/Moon with his Neptune contributes to a romantic idea. Maybe they are each other's 'muses' (romantic inspiration).

Husband Nick has indications for possible divorce: Mars conjunct Uranus and Moon-Saturn. It doesn't mean he hás to divorce, but it is a risk. Perhaps the reflection of unstable relationships mirrors the called off engagement with Salita Ebanks?  Here is Mariah's chart with Nick's positions:

The Capricorn Descendant seems to indicate the age differences (and difference in status) between her and her husbands.

LINKS
http://art-astrology.blogspot.com/2009/07/chart-of-mariah-carey.html

http://astropost.blogspot.com/2010/10/mariah-carey-1145-am.html



The marriages of Princess Anne of England

Princess Anne of England married twice. Her natal charts has 3 out of the 4 indications for divorce for women*) and a conflict between the rulers of the 1^st and 7^th house. That is enough for at least one divorce. This post is about the matches.

FIRST MARRIAGE

Princess Anne’s first husband, the father of her children, is Mark Philips, an Olympic medal winnig horseman. They married on November 14, 1973 and divorced in 1992.During their marriage he had an affair and fathered a daughter (in August 1985). This was confirmed by a DNA-test in 1991, soon after her progressed Venus conjunct Saturn (an astrological statement for a depression in a marriage).

Anne and Mark didn’t match much from the start. Their Mars and Moons were in the ‘right’ signs, but their Sun signs, Mercuries and Venus didn’t match. They had children together, but they didn’t like each other much in the end. 

BTW His Jupiter was trine her Sun and that is mirroring support and trust. Apparently that doesn’t mean that a person will be faithful and true. It just means that one of the partners puts her/his trust in the other one (and we don’t know if that was the right thing to do). 

Here you see the chart of Anne with the positions of Mark Philips.

SECOND MARRIAGE

Princess Anne’s present husband is Tim Laurence. They aren’t married in the Church of England, because this Church (with the Queen as leader) doesn’t allow marriage after divorce.  (Watch Uranus in the 9^th house for this. It is an indication for a change in conviction or religion).

They married on December 12,1992 and are still together, in spite of their synastry. The Venus opposition Venus, Mars opposition Mars and his Neptune square her Venus is pointing at a passionate and romantic start and risking later ups and downs, competition or even fights.  Or perhaps they manage to control that in trying to beat each other in sports:).

When she got married her Progressed Sun was sextile the Midheaven and inconjunct Jupiter. Transit Pluto and Pallas were on the progressed Ascendant. Also T Jupiter was inconjunct Venus. I guess that that aspect is reflecting the wedding partyJ.

Here you see the Princess’ chart with the transits and progressions of her wedding day.

 *) The indications for divorce/not getting married in a woman's chart are:

Sun-Mars, Mars-Saturn, Sun-Uranus and Venus-Uranus aspect combinations (in particular the hard aspects). 

The indications for males are: Moon-Saturn, Moon-Neptune, Venus-Neptune and Mars-Uranus.

Famous couple: Princess Irene and Prince Carlos Hugo de Borbon Parma

 Born on August 5, 1939, Princess Irene is the second daughter of Juliana and Bernhard, the former Queen and Prince and the sister of Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands. She studied Spanish language and literature. She became a catholic when she married her Carlos Hugo de Borbon, who didn’t become the King of Spain, though he wanted to. She gave up her position in the Netherlands for this marriage…on the 29^th of April 1964. AC/MC is semi square Juno, showing how crucial her marriage was. 

Here you see her chart with transits and progressions for the wedding day.

The majority of the positions on her wedding day show formality and distance (her family was not allowed to be in church that day because the government hadn’t agreed with the marriage. I can give a complete list of transits and progressions, but it is actually enough to point at the transit op Saturn, opposition progressed Venus and conjunct progressed Moon. The honeymoon (Moon-Venus) and the formal situation putting her down. My latest post was about the effect of Venus-Saturn and this is another example of it. 

She divorced him later. It was her first and only marriage. *)

MATCH WITH CARLOS HUGO

His Saturn is inconjunct her natal Sun and his Uranus is trine her natal Sun. Their Sun signs are matching though the Suns are 112.5 degrees apart (a square + half semi square!), and their Venus don’t match (square). His Moon might be conjunct her Sun (a traditional synastry aspect between a man and a woman, but more often it is his Sun and her Moon) and their Moon signs are matching.

The Saturn inconjunct Sun combination is the most important indication for divorce and separations (or boundaries, obstacles and limitations without control, making it hard to be together), though there are more (not mentioned here). Her ex-husband is still around when family matters (maybe because of the matching Moons.). They have four children together. 

PS Today there was an announcement that Prince Carlos Hugo de Borbon is dying now. He already said goodbye to his family.

*) Princess Irene has all of the four aspect combinations of possible divorce*) in her chart, but only 2 of them are difficult (the square and the quindecile):

- Sun binovile Uranus (going your own way, regardless of other’s opinions), 

- Venus quintile Uranus (creative adventures in love) and 

- Mars square Saturn (seperation from a man, dead ends) with 

- Sun quindecile Mars

*) Afflictions between Sun-Mars, Sun-Uranus, Venus-Uranus and Mars-Saturn and/or between the houses 1 and 7 are indicative for a greater chance for divorce or not getting married in the charts of women. In the charts of men these afflictions are: Moon-Saturn, Moon-Neptune, Venus-Neptune and Mars-Uranus and/or house1 - house 7.  More of those afflictions increase the possibility of separations.

EXPLANATION

 A binovile is an aspect of 80 degrees, a novile is 40 degrees.  The novile means ‘ finding joy in/rejoicing’…More noviles on Linda Goodman’s forum… http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/201926.html

More quindeciles here…

http://holisticastrologer.blogspot.com/2008/03/exploring-quindecile-aspect.html

Orcus, Lothar Matthaeus, Charles and Diana

Broken promises and revenge or punishment: that is what Orcus, the latest discovered Plutonian object, is all about. This symbol must be important for astrology and love…

Lothar Matthaeus, the German football player, was confronted with pictures of his fourth wife, obviously enjoying the company of another man. This was a perfect example of the effect of a transit of Orcus. Inconjunctions are reflecting lost balance or losts…Transit Orcus is exactly inconjunct his natal Sun right now.

And there is more…

Transit Saturn is opposition natal Sun (end of a period, caused by others) and transit Uranus is conjunct natal Sun (upheaval, you are in the news…).

So we can’t just blame Orcus for this, but the symbol was there as obvious as the secret lover was. But it could just be coincidence, of course...

Orcus is important in the charts of the Prince and Princess of Wales, Charles and Diana, too. He has Sun inconjunct Orcus. She has Sun conjunct Orcus. His Orcus is sextile/semi-sextile her Uranus and Venus . Those aspects of Orcus and Sun are reflecting that ‘ keeping oaths’ (not) was an aspect of importance in their lives. They shared this aspect of learning to live with the Plutonian Orcus.

Of course there was more to say about the match and the wedding. See this post… http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2010/07/princess-dianas-wedding-day-and-match.html

Famous couples: John and Elizabeth Edwards & John Edwards and Rielle Hunter

Former candidate for the USA presidency, John Edwards tried to keep it a secret and he denied for a long time that he is the father of the baby of his lover, Rielle Hunter. John Edwards is now divorcing his wife (who is a breast cancer patient). Why does this happen? Is it just because he is rich and famous, or are there indications in the natal chart? Or both? Indications for divorce in the chart of men are afflictions of the Moon with Saturn and Neptune, Venus in hard aspect with Neptune, Mars afflicted by Uranus and/or afflictions between the houses 1 and 7. We see a number of those afflictions in the chart of John Edwards.

1. Moon with Saturn and Neptune

The Moon sesquisquare Saturn and Neptune seems to be very appropriate considering the fact that his wife is seriously ill.  Saturn-Neptune is the combination of illnesses, too.

The aspects of the Moon with Saturn and Neptune are also two of the four indications that the astrologer Ram mentioned as indicative for possible divorce (or not marrying at all) in the charts of males.

2. Venus and Neptune: a quindecile

John Edwards has Venus quindecile Neptune (and Saturn)! That is 3!

3. In the Astrodatabank chart Cancer is on the Ascendant. The dispositor of Cancer is the Moon. The seventh house is ruled by Saturn as Capricorn is on the cusp of the Descendant. Moon and Saturn are sesquisquare! Afflictions between the rulers of the first and seventh house are also difficult for a marriage.

WHY A LONGLASTING MARRIAGE?

Capricorn on the seventh house might have kept him in a marriage because of responsibilities, parenthood or other obligations. Capricon is for consistency! And for keeping up appearances, too. Ruler 7^th house, Saturn, is in Libra. Libra is the sign of 'being together'. The position of Saturn in Libra might prolongue relationships (good and bad ones).

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ASTROLOGICAL EXCUSES

John Edwards is a good looking Mr. Nice Guy and probably well to do. That is attracting a lot of ladies. With Moon in Gemini conjunct Jupiter rising before the Sun, he is the popular and positive looking guy. John Edwards also has Venus quintile Uranus, so he has a creative desire for 'something new', 'excitement' and adventures. Uranus is on the Ascendant shows the individualistic approach and an independent and free presentation. The unbearable load of being married, in the chart of good looking individualist...that is asking for problems. It may be lonely at the top sometimes, but not alone!:) Here is the chart. The positions on the outside of the circle ('transits') are the positions of the day of birth of Elizabeth:

Look at Mars (square MC): Mars is not making aspects within 5 degrees orb. Mars is 'calling', reflecting energy (drive, work or sex) at any possible level. Jupiter is rising before the Sun and Mars is 'calling': that is a statement for success in life and.. for reproduction. He officially has five children now.

There are probably a lot of astrological 'excuses', but I think that Saturn ruling the 7th in Libra and quindecile Venus is the key to sticking to an outdated marriage.

Of course, a man who has so many indications for divorce will not marry a perfectly matching partner. I don't want to sound cynical, but there must be room to fail, as it seems. That is why there is little match with Elizabeth.

MATCH WITH WIFE ELIZABETH

She is a Cancer, he is a Gemini…no match

His Moon in Gemini, hers in Libra…match (their families and habits match)

His Mercury in Cancer, hers in Gemini…no match (differences of opinion)

(Her Mercury is conjunct his Sun, btw)

His Venus in Taurus, hers in Leo,…no match (different styles and sympathies)

His Mars in Gemini, so is hers…match! But it is Mars. And Mars conjunct Mars might be regarded as an affliction when it comes to disagreement...

SYNASTRY WITH ELIZABETH

Her Pholus is sesquisquare his Sun/Moon as if she is shooting her feet by marrying him or that the marriage was a turning point in her life.

Her Neptune is exactly square his Ascendant and that means that she doesn’t see him clearly as he is. Disappointment might follow...

MATCH WITH RIELLE HUNTER

He is a Gemini, she is a Pisces or Aries…Match?

The Moons are in the same sign…Match

Mercury square Mercury…differences of opinion

Venus in same sign…Match

Mars in Gemini square Mars in Pisces (first hot attraction, fighting each other later, competition)

It is a lot of attraction and ...a lot of discussions....

Here is the chart of John Edwards again, this time with the ('transit') position of Rielle Hunter.

LINKS
See the earlier post about John and Rielle...

About hard aspects between Moon and Saturn (also an aspect for 'keeping up appearances')...For more famous couples, see the labels \/

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Famous couple:Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown

Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown married and divorced. The marriage lasted rather long considering the fact that they had problems from the beginning. Here is the chart of Whitney and the positions of her ex-husband are the transits (in green).

For living together as one, it is easier to have matching sun signs. This is because the Sun is the symbol of life, heart and will. The Suns of Whitney and Bobby are exactly in opposition, so that they attracted each other even though there was a big question mark about how to join there ways of living. Their lifestyles don’t match.

There habits didn’t match either. They have the Moons in not matching signs (Aries and Virgo). If the Moons were inconjunct (150 degrees apart) there might have been extraordinary attraction leading to missing balance between them.

Mercury is the planet of communications. Their Mercuries don’t match, so that communicating wasn’t easy.

His Venus in Aries matches hers in Leo, so they definitely liked each other and shared preferences and tastes.

Her Mars in Libra however doesn’t really cooperate fluently with his Mars in Scorpio. Her Jupiter and Saturn are in conflict with his Mars. His Mars is inconjunct Saturn and square her Saturn. That is a bad sign, often making them enemies.

His Saturn is square her Node and that is an indication for separation.

So why did they marry? I think that there is a meaning in her Sun opposition Pholus and his Sun conjunct her Pholus. Pholus is the symbol of the turning point in life and she certainly had dramatic turning points in hers. Pholus is the Centaur who shot his own foot. She might risk ‘ shooting her foot’ more often and he is the living proof of how she did that. On the other hand, he may have been the catalyst of some inner and outer process that we are unaware of. Who knows..And perpaps things are even more complicated. Bobby Brown says that she introduced him to cocaine! Anyway, the complications of their relationship are reflected by the complicated aspects between their charts. The experience didn't stop Bobby from marrying and divorcing again and again and again...


PS On Astropost I wrote about the obsession of Osama Bin Laden (also an aggressive person) for Whitney. I wrote this:

In August 2006 an 'ex-sexslave' of Osama told the media that he was obsessed by Whitney Houston and even planned murdering her husband. It is astrologically a case of counterparts. Whitney Houston is a Leo and Osama a Pisces (difficult combinations basically). The Moon of Whitney is in Aries and his in Cancer (difficult to live together or to get used to the different habits.) His Mercury is opposed to hers (problems communicating). Her Venus is in a very narrow inconjunction to his Venus (they cannot match preferences). Her Mars is sesqui square his (good for a fight or not longlasting sexual attraction). Her Pluto opposes his Venus and Mercury (that makes the attraction very intense). Check it yourself: Whitney Houston is born 9th August 1963.

Jesse James (now with h.o.b.)

Jesse James is a successful person in business and he used to be successful in marrying Sandra Bullock, but now they separated after his affair with a tattoo-model. I have written about them before (see the earlier post). That was before I knew the hour of birth of Jesse James (thanks to Femscorp:).

Why is he 'cheating' and why can he? Let us take the circumstances into consideration: he is rich and attractive, women like him, he is a member of the jet set and his wife was far away for weeks. He is also the kind of person who needs to have exciting contacts and discussions (Moon in Gemini trine Uranus). His Sun/Moon midpoint is in hard aspect with Uranus: he is motivated by change, excitement and adventure and family life will often by hectic. And ...he has the usual indications for divorce in the chart of a man + an Venus in Aries, the ruler of the first house in 12 sesquisquare Neptune (natural ruler of the 12th) in the 7th house.

Venus in Aries is a difficult position for Venus, because it is for love at first sight and astrologically because Venus is in the sign that opposes the sign that Venus rules (Libra). Perhaps Jesse has a charming, but direct way to present himself as a result of this. The problem with Venus is, that there is an affliction with the
planet of illusions: Neptune.

Venus is sesquisquare Neptune in the 7th house. Now there is a double affliction (ruler 1 - planet in 7 and Venus-Neptune). Venus-Neptune and 1-7 afflictions are among the indications for divorce in a male's chart. Venus-Neptune is the combination of art, too, because it relates fantasy and dreams to beauty. In ordinary life it is the combination of romantic ideas in love and about women.

Venus is in the 12th house, just like Sun (inconjunct Neptune) and Saturn (inconjunct Neptune). Neptune ruler of the natural 12th house is in 7 and Venus ruler of the natural 7th is in the 12th. That is another indication for Venus-Neptune, the aspect related to love affairs.

Another indication for divorce is Moon opposition Neptune, out of sign. The amount of indications for divorce says enough. Jesse James married more than once. Moon and Venus (ruler 1) afflicted by Neptune (in 7). It doesn't mean that he can't stay married at all, but his need for (exciting) love and romance stands in the way to make it long lasting.

WHY NOW?
There are several astrological reflections for the present situation:

- Progressed Venus is almost exactly square natal Midheaven; his status and position is related to women in a difficult way now.
- Earlier Venus was quindecile the Descendant: a strong focus on partnership-love.
- The Moon is inconjunct Venus in the progressed chart. Moon-Venus conflicts are conflicts between or about women (in a male's chart) and it is about getting out of balance because of sentimental feelings right now.
- The ruler of the Descendant in the progressed chart is Jupiter, now opposition transit Uranus (and that is often indicating sudden relief but Uranus opposition ruler 7 is not).
- Progressed Uranus is inconjunct natal Sun and that will remain so for a longer period of time. The inconjunction between Sun and Uranus is in the natal chart, too. The aspect refers to being special, drawing attention by the way that you differ from the others in a rather disproportionate way. Jesse James is an outsider in the world of movie stars. His marriage brought him into that world.
- Transit Saturn inconjunct progressed Saturn this year...

So what you see is a lot of Uranus (upheaval) like in the chart of Sandra, who also has the Saturn inconjunction for separation.

MATCH
In the earlier post (click here) I mentioned that the Moon of Jesse James in Taurus does not match with the Moon in Aquarius of Sandra, but now I know the hour of birth and his Moon appears to be in Gemini. So the Moon signs match, but now there is another difficulty. The Moon of Jesse James is opposition the Sun of Sandra Bullock and that is a challenging aspect in synastry, even though it is an indication for attraction.

Further:
- Their Suns are in friendly signs.
- Venus quintile Venus: a creative way to combine tastes and share sympathies and liking each other, too.
- Mars is opposition Mars, in a very wide aspect, to reflect sexual attraction followed by the (distant) possibility of fighting or competing with each other. As his Jupiter is in aspect with her Mars, there is also compensation for that.

It is not such a bad match, it is a matter of sharing Sun-Saturn that makes it easy to drift apart (see the earlier post) and on the other hand: hard to separate because of the shared responsibilities (and maybe business/mortgage) and because of the idea of consistency.

Famous couple: Sandra Bullock- Jesse James

This post comes a bit too late. As it seems, Sandra has left Jesse James after an interview in Touch with Michelle McGee, the ex-lover of Jesse (while he was married with Sandra). There is a rather good match between their charts, apart from the not matching Moon signs,which doesn't make it easy to live in the same house and get used to each other's habits or family. More about the match when you scroll down...

There is one important shared aspect that is reflecting distance and seperation as an issue in their lives and a shared issue in the relationship: Sun afflicting Saturn.

Sandra Bulluck has a 'calling' Sun, a Sun without major aspects. It means that you draw attention as a leader or as a star, anyhow, somehow. And her Sun is inconjunct Saturn on Midheaven(time of birth by Astrotheme). I have written about
Sun inconjunct Saturn before on Astropost (click the label inconjunct saturn'that you see on astropost.blogspot.com). It is one of the most difficult aspects to have to deal with, even if you are a 'lucky star'. And she married a man with Saturn rising before the Sun and conjunct Sun (apex of a Yod), so that they share an important Sun-Saturn affliction. They were probably very serious when they started their life together. And they kept 'minding their own business'. It kept Sandra away from home for weeks. In that period Michelle and Jesse had an affair.

Jesse James (descendant of the outlaw Jesse James) was born April 19, 1969. You see Sandra Bullockś chart here.The transits are for the positions for Jesse James at noon.

Note: When you share difficult Sun-Saturn aspect there are two possible scenarios: staying together because of the law, mortgage, business, parenthood...or separation and divorce. Saturn often points at a certain distance (by age, by restrictions such a one partner being married, etc.). In an individual's chart the Sun-Saturn progression or transit frequently indicates the end of a period in life. Sun-Saturn's like to keep things under control and that might be a reason to take the first step and say goodbye, earlier than other persons do, unless they are certain of their partner.

MATCH
Their Suns are in friendly signs, but their Moons don't match. So perhaps it won't have been easy to get used to living together and sharing habits, food and family. That is largely compensated by Venus quintile Venus: a creative way to combine tastes and share sympathies and liking each other, too. Mars is opposition Mars, in a very wide aspect, to reflect sexual attraction followed by the (distant) possibility of fighting or competing with each other. As his Jupiter is in aspect with her Mars, there is also compensation for that. It is not such a bad match, it is a matter of Sun-Saturn. Or?

Would it just be as the Huffington post comments (the curse of the Oscar and that men are always as loyal as their chances are?)

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- Multiple marriages, double bodied signs and Jupiter in 7

*) (There is also a Venus-Jupiter-Pluto interaction between their charts: her Pluto is inconjunct his Venus and his Pluto is square her Venus. Her Jupiter is square his Pluto, his is 15 degrees from her Pluto and trine her Venus. There is a novile between her Jupiter and his Venus. That is a combination for a lot of money and/or a lot of love.)