Friendship between man and woman

There are those kind of relationships that are not sex-related but are very intense and long lasting. Ramses Shaffy recently died and on the night before Liesbeth List held him in her arms. They sang together and had a special kind of friendship. He was homosexual, she is married, but they were a well known couple. How come? It is because they shared the Moonsign.Both have Moon in Sagittarius. Friends often have the same moonsign. It makes you feel like coming home...They also shared minor and major aspects between Sun-Neptune (the romantic life of the artist) and Sun-Uranus (the will to be independent and 'unusual' or different than the rest). Also his Pluto is inconjunct her Sun and that might point at a disproportional influence and intensity. Here is the chart of Ramses Shaffy with the natal positions on Liesbeth List's birthday on the outside of the circle. As you see, there were no matches that complicated this friendship. They just had joined experiences and desires and felt close!

More about sharing aspects on Astromarkt and about the Moon in Sagittarius in the article about the Basics, too. I quote:

Well, you may not really BE cheerful, but you think acting cheerful is a good thing always. You need progress and good news, cannot do without and when you pretend being happy you might actually become happy (you hope). Sometimes you just overdo that! When things are getting wrong or bad you became nervous and hurried.

Billy Graham is a good example of this positive attitude.

See them sing on YouTube...

The marriages of Nicolas Cage

Nicolas Cage married 3 times after he became the father of his and Christina Fuller's child. He is in the news today because Christina started a lawsuit for fraud about the property of a house.

Nicolas Cage seems to marry fast and short! What in his chart 'does it'? And did he match with his exes? (Of course he didn't!)

MATCHES (NOT...)
The former relationships were with women who were attractive but every time there was no match, even not between the Sunsigns. When there is no match between the Sunsigns (and the Suns are not related by a quintile or biquintile to find a creative way to live as one) without compensation by Venus (love helps:), it is very hard to keep the relationship going, especially when one partner has multiple indications for broken relationship. And even more when both partners do...

CAGE's INDICATIONS FOR DIVORCE
a. There are 4 (conjunctions and) afflictions in a male's chart that indicate a stronger possibility to get a divorce than other males. Cage has two of them (Mars sesquisquare Uranus and Venus square Neptune). Let us say that these aspects explain the adventures and the 'romance'. Venus square Neptune reflects romantic feeling and artistic talents.
b. Ruler 1 is Jupiter and ruler 7 (house of marriage) is Mercury. Mercury is square
Jupiter. That is the 3rd one.
c. It is rather easy to have multiple marriages when Gemini (a double bodied sign) is placed on the Descendant.
d. There are more difficulties than the ones mentioned above, like Moon square Mars and Venus conjunct Saturn.
e. Women like him and he likes them! With the Moon in Libra he has sense of style and beauty (and he likes the company of good looking ladies). The Moon in Libra has a desire to be 'together' and have a partner. On the other hand: Venus in Aquarius tells us about a preference for excitement and 'something new' and that is related to 'romance'...(Neptune). That is how a person comes to change his wife from time to time:)

PARTNERS AND MATCHES
Here are the former partners:

1. Christina Fulton was born June 26 1967 in Boise Idaho. Nicolas and Christina never married. Their child was born December 26 1990, when Nicolas Cage was 26 and Christina's progressed Sun was square his Moon.

Their Suns don't match (Capricorn and Cancer)
Their Moons matched (they could have been friends, feeling at ease with each other)
Their Mercury's were in conflict (difficult communications)
Venus opposition Venus: it is attractive to meet someone so different, but it doesn't last...
Mars is square Mars: sexual attraction and fighting in the end

So that explains Christina Fulton. No match, just attraction.

2. Lisa Mary Presley married Michael Jackson, but she also married Nicolas Cage (for a few months only)./ Why? What made them think that it would be worthwhile to get married?

His Sun in Capricorn doesn't match hers in Aquarius, but: his Jupiter is conjunct her natal Sun (he trustred in her).
Her Moon in Pisces doesn't go together with his Moon in Libra, but they are both sensitive and tasteful, so perhaps the artistic environment brought them together.
Mercury and Venus don't match either...but Mars in Capricorn happens to be septile her Mars in Pisces, sextile his natal Sun. Again, sexual attraction 'did it', but it couldn't last because of the not matching Suns without compensation by Venus.

Again there is no match, only attraction.

3. Patricia Arquette was born April 8, 1968 with her natal Sun square his (very attracting, but also very difficult to deal with). Their Moons were in friendly signs (Libra and Leo), but their Mercuries and Venus didn't match. Mars in Capricorn goes with Mars in Taurus and that makes it easy to cooperate or to be attracted to each other.
But: her Saturn is square her Sun and his natal Sun and that is a sign for breaking up. Her Venus is opposition Uranus (sign for divorce in a woman's chart). The not matching Suns and Venus did the rest. Another example of attraction, but no match...

Nicolas Cage married a woman 20 years younger than he is, Alice Kim, in July 2004. Alice Kim was a sushi waitress before she married Nicolas Cage. She was born in 1984. In that year Jupiter was in Capricorn, the sign of Nicolas Cage's Sun. Marrying younger women is reflected by Gemini on the Descendant (Gemini means 'young').
Maybe the 3rd wife is the right wife? I shouldn't know, her date of birth is unknown.

CONCLUSION
When a man has so many indications for possible divorce and he marriages women who also have such indications (asap), it is not surprising to see him marry again and again in a culture and social setting that permits divorce and promotes marriage. The natal chart, conditions and situations together sometimes produce a matching picture!

FANS AND SUCCESSES
Of course there is more than marriage in the life of Cage. He is an actor. Nicolas Cage has Neptune rising before the Sun and Jupiter is opposition Midheaven. These prominent placements of Jupiter and Neptune contribute to having a devoted audience (fans, followers) and it increases fantasy. Also Jupiter is biquintile Neptune to illustrate the creative link between successes and the amorphous (like the world of the movies).

Famous couples: Ike and Tina Turner

In December 2007 I wrote about Ike and Tina Turner on Astropost.blogspot.com:

Ike Turner (5 November 1931 Clarksdale) died yesterday. He is famous as the 'man of'...Tina Turner was his wife until she left him after abuse.
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You see her birth (26th November 1939, 22h10 Bronsville) and the positions of his day of birth outside the circle. His Mars is square her Mars and Sun. I have seen several examples (like that of Paul and Helen McCartney) of people fighting each other who have a conflict between their planets Mars.

In her natal chart Tina has Sun square Mars. That is by the way one of the major indications for divorce in the chart of a female.
Notice that Tina has Venus square Neptune, that Venus disposes of the Midheaven and Neptune is square midheaven. That connects artistic talents with the MC (vocation, profession).

Another thing I notice is that Ike's Sun and Jupiter are conjunct crucial positions of Tina. They were very influencial in each others' lifes...He may have been supporting and coaching her (besides the beating...).

Ike Turner died in the year that his progressed sun passed to another sign. That is an indication for a change in 'being'.

Mind if I add that her Sun is quindecile Uranus, another indication for possible divorce? And of course: Venus biquintile Uranus (the creative combination of aspirations for entertainment and ...for women's lib?)...There is even a fourth indication: Mars is septile Saturn! Now we have all for of the indications AND ruler 1 is afflicting ruler 7 AND a planet in the 7th house. Those are ALL of the indications! No wonder that she managed to break free. As it was her first marriage it was almost ' written in the stars' that it would be with the' wrong' guy. (And I use to think that maybe that has a function).

MATCH? NO!
But let us see if they matched! Of course they didn’t!

1 .Her Sagittarius and his Scorpio Sun don’t match, but as her Sun is making a half semi square with his, they were attracted to each other.

2. Her Gemini Moon square his Virgo Moon tells us that they didn’t have the same kind of habits or background and that it would be very difficult to get used to each others way of ‘ family life’.

3. Also, Mercury and Venus are in the wrong signs to get to like to talk with each other peacefully.

4. But the worse affliction is between his Mars and hers (as said before). The recent break up in the marriage of Tiger Woods and his Elin shows that Mars square Mars ends up in fighting each other. Unfortunately MARS-MARS interaction often leads to fast action because of the (sexual) attraction or because of the stimulating nature of the synastry aspect.

His Mars is also conjunct her natal Sun!

START AND FINISH
She probably fell in love (and started her career) with progressed Sun conjunct Venus, followed by trine Saturn and …square Neptune., at the foundation of her artistic successes and at the same time: misery. With Venus ruler Midheaven square Neptune and Moon 108 degrees (72+36!) Neptune, she has a strong pattern of professional artistic talents that was activated at the time. That is how she became famous. But when she left Ike, she became een more famous and forgot about Ike. When he started abusing her, her progressed Sun was square her Neptune. When she left him, his progressed Sun afflicted his natal Neptune. Roles were switched...

MARS SQUARE? BEWARE!
If you and your partner don't match much and Mars is afflicting Mars: beware and take care. It might be fun for a short while, but unless you operate in different businesses or sports and it is stimulating for your business to drive each other to the max, don't mate. There is a great chance of conflicts. But...maybe you have the feeling that it will be worth it when you come out of the fight as a winner, like Tina Turner did...

Do Tiger Woods and Elin Nordegren match?

Tiger Woods has a problem since transit Uranus over his Descendant made his relationships world news. Read all about him on Astropost.
But do he and his wife Elin Nordegren (mother of their two children) match? No, they don't. They seem to have married the right person to break free from later. Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes you meet a person and marry him/her because trough that person you meet Mr. or Mrs. Right:) or you simply get the children that you want AND your indepence...But divorces don't come easy. Can they be avoided by having a look at the match? I doubt it. People just don't believe it when they are told that they don't match. It is because they fell in love:)

SIGN FOR DIVORCE
When Elin Nordegren was born, the Sun in Capricorn was semi square Uranus. That is one of the aspects that show the risk of getting divorced. Tiger Woods has two (parallels of Moon with Saturn and Neptune). It is their first marriage, so it will be hard to stay together, unless there is a perfect match.

MATCH?
They are both Capricorns (he December 30, she January 1) and that makes it easy to live as one. But, their Moons are in opposite signs, so it will be hard to live as one in one house and family. They have different habits and needs and family backgrounds (she is Swedish). It won’t be easy to feel ‘ close’ soon. They will have to get used to each other or find ways to live together, but apart.
His Venus is in Scorpio and hers in Aquarius. That is no match, but fortunately 312 – 239 = 73 (a quintile), so that they like and love each other and found a creative way to match tastes and sympathies. The square between his Mars and hers is however not compensated at all. His Mars is important (on top of his chart), so that the square hits hard.

No, they don't match, really...And: there are more difficulties:

In Elin's natal chart the Sun is semi square Uranus and that Uranus is semi square his Sun! It seems that she married the right guy to divorce from and be independent and free again.

NEWS
Now that the public has been informed by more and more ex-‘ lovers’ about the adventures of her husband, there is a lot of pressure. Her progressed Sun has been 75 degrees from Uranus (a shock, a change) earlier and is exactly 75 degrees from progressed Uranus. That is confirming the natal aspect. It is time to see the truth.
Also the progressed Sun is now inconjunct Jupiter (being right, but…). The combination of Jupiter and Neptune is perhaps mirroring a relief. It must be awful to have to pretend all the time.

Elin has better times to look forward to. Within 18 months the progressed Sun will be conjunct Venus and sesquisquare Saturn. Perhaps there will be found an arrangement.

MARRIAGE
When she met Tiger Woods her progressed Sun sign changed (and so did her life style) and her progressed Sun was opposition his natal Saturn when they married. That is not a good sign. His life changed when he married her, too. He had progressed Sun opposition Uranus, a sort of a reflection of a ‘ matter of freedom and indepence’ . And now Uranus is there again…It seems that they married the right person to break free from.

No, there is no match between them. And yes, the transit of Uranus on the Descendant of Tiger Woods comes together with progression with Uranus in the chart of his wife. It must be very exciting, tense and hectic…

Famous couple: Al and Tipper Gore

There are a couple of famous couples on this blog and this time (because of the Climate Conference in Kopenhagen and Climategate) the couple is Al and Tipper Gore. They were born in the same year, 1948. He is an Aries and she is a Leo and that is a match. There is a minor hard aspect between their Suns that explains the difficulties in the relationship between Al Gore and Bill Clinton who has the same birthday as Tipper Gore (but was born 2 years earlier). As long as she doesn’t want to be the star (and that must be difficult for a Leo) their Suns match. It looks very attractive (two shining stars), but one must be leading. I would like to see them dance a quick step!:)

MUTUAL LOVE
With her Venus square his Sun and his Venus square her Sun, the mutual love and sympathy must be obvious. They really love and like each other, even though it is sometimes difficult to agree on matters of taste and style (as her Venus is semi square his). Their Mars match (his in Leo, hers in Libra) and her Jupiter is trine his Mars! That refers to reproduction (and they have children together). It is also an indication that she will support his efforts and activities.

GOING STEADY
Al Gore doesn’t have indications for a divorce in the natal chart. With Venus in Taurus and Mars in Leo (both fixed signs) it is to be expected that he goes for longlasting love (he goes steady!)..
Tipper Gore's chart has a difficult opposition between the rulers of the first and seventh house (Moon and Saturn) and between the ruler of the seventh house and Venus on the Ascendant. Venus is semi square Saturn (ruler 8). So in her chart we see possibilities for breaking up. However:
They have been married for ages now, since May 19, 1970. That is 40 years. So here you have an example of a long lasting relationship.


SUN/MOON MIDPOINT
Her Moon makes a hard aspect with his Sun/Moon midpoint.
His Sun is making a hard aspect with her Sun/Moon midpoint.
That produces a strong sense of ‘ belonging’ to each other. (Click the label Sun/Moon for more...)

SUN-NEPTUNE
They share a conflict between Sun and Neptune (he has the opposition and she has a semi square). On Astromarkt there is an article about sharing aspects. I write about Sun-Neptune:

Sun and Neptune shared in aspect gives you shared ideals, dreams and faith or even a shared idol! But with hard aspects you might share the same disillusions as well or this relationship is disillusive. Cooperating could work out best in an asylum or in a non-profit organization where they can help others, and each other.
Another possible combination is between enemies and with Sun in hard aspect with Neptune shared. Ideology stand between you as was the case with the murderer of director Theo van Gogh who shared Sun square Neptune with his victim.

I read that they go to church each Sunday (if possible). Neptune is the symbol of ideology and religion. Perhaps the issue of sharing the same ideals is a hot item for the relationship. Life is not always a dream, but you can at least try to realise yours...perhaps that is the general idea of Sun-Neptune here.

AND?
Is it a perfect match? Is or was it always a perfect marriage? Will it last till they die? I don’t know. But I do know that they love each other and that they have a strong sense of belonging together. Of course, that is why they ARE officially married and together still!:)

Divorce for Princess Elena of Spain

The Spanish Princess Elena will divorce. In 2006 she and her husband (los Duques de Lugo) started living apart to reconsider their marriage and now they decided that it is really over and they asked for a divorce.
The news comes with a typical combination of transits and progressions related to her natal chart, involving the Ascendant, Venus and Uranus. The affliction of Venus and Uranus in the chart of a woman shows the possibility of divorce.

a. Transit Uranus - Venus - Ascendant
Transit Uranus at 22d43m Pisces is exactly conjunct her Progressed Venus and both are square the progressed Ascendant.

b. Natal Uranus - Venus - Ascendant
Uranus is sesquisquare the conjunction of Venus and Ascendant in the natal chart.

The transit 'copied' the combination of the natal chart and that is what makes this transit so strong. It is activating the existing potential.

ASPECTS WITH A RISK TO GET DIVORCED
Here is a list of difficult aspects for getting or staying married, as composed by the astrologer Ram:

In a man's chart they are:
Hard aspects between Moon and Saturn or Neptune, Venus and Neptune, Mars and Uranus.

In a female's chart they are:
Hard aspects between Sun and Mars or Uranus, Venus and Uranus, Mars and Saturn.

And in the charts of both genders:Afflictions between the 1st and 7th house (rulers)

I found that Venus in Aries or Mars in Libra do not make relationships easy. Neither does the placement of Neptune on the horizon in the charts of females. Hard aspects between Moon, Venus and/or Mars illustrate that it may be hard to find a match (and so the nativity needs to compromise).

"Nació el 20 de diciembre de 1963 a las 14:20..."

Source: Noticias.terra.es

Famous couple: Margarita and Edwin

Dutch Princess Margarita, daughter of Irene, the sister of Queen Beatrix, divorced Edwin de Roy van Zuydewijn, so we are pretty certain about their non-compatibility☺ . I wondered about the reflection of divorce in their charts and I found an uneasy match. Also, they both have indications for possible divorce in the natal charts. Since it was the first marriage for both of them, there was a substantial chance for breaking up. During the marriage difficult transits and progressions contributed to the hard situation. More about that on Wikipedia (see link below).

MATCH?

Her Sun is in Libra is 112.5 degrees from his Sun in Gemini. Although their sun signs ‘ match’ , there is a difficult aspect (square+half semi-square) between their suns (=lifestyle). This aspect is attracting them, but also making it hard to find a joined way of living.

His Moon might be in Gemini, opposition hers. That makes it difficult to live together as their families or background don’t match (and they did not).

There is no conflict between her Venus and his. In fact there is a 108 degree aspect (quintile 72 + half quintile 36), that is reflecting a creative way to like and love each other.

Mars is 112.5 degrees from Mars. A conflict between Mars and Mars usually ends up in fighting and so it did this time.

Possible effect of the aspects:
With the Sun and Moon afflicted by Sun and Moon it is very hard to start and maintain a family life. Venus and Mars in aspect however make it easy to start a man-woman-relationship, ending in a fight...Also, his Venus is inconjunct her Sun, reflecting a lack of balance in love life. So you see that there was a reason to become a couple and one for ending the relationship. Also they both have indications for broken relationships in their natal charts and this was their first marriage.

SHARED
He has Sun square Saturn on Aries Point, she has Sun trine Saturn. They share a certain ambition and position and that is what also brought them together. More about couples sharing aspects on my site Astromarkt...With his Jupiter in aspect with her Sun/Moon midpoint they started with confidence...

DIVORCE
Her Sun conjunct Uranus is one of the aspect in the charts of women that point at a possible divorce and a double bodied sign . When a person has 2 or more of this kind of indicators it is pretty difficult to stay married or get married. Her former husband has 2 indications for divorce: Mars square Uranus and Venus opposition Neptune, even without knowing his hour of birth.

NOW
Princess Margarita found a new husband. She married and has a child and looks very happy. Recently she visited the Pope. It is been suggested in the press that she wanted to have her first marriage cancelled. That visit (accompanied by her brothers, sister and father) happened with Mercury opposition Vesta in her progressed chart. Natal Vesta is in Gemini, perhaps a perfect symbool of a second ‘ first’ marriage. Meanwhile her ex-husband says that he refuses to have his marriage cancelled.

Here above you see her chart and the birth positions of her ex husband in the outer wheel. Her chart is with hour of birth, his is for sunrise (time unknown).

More about Margarita on Wikipedia..