Famous couple: John Edwards and Rielle Hunter

A famous couple is Rielle Hunter and John Edwards. They had an affair once and they have a child together. But how is their match?

Their Sun signs seem to collide (Gemini and Pisces), but the Suns are 80 degrees apart and that is a binovile. Binoviles are about 'rejoycing' things. So maybe they rejoyced being together:)
There is also match between the Moons and Venus, so they probably were comfortable and at ease with each other.

Mercury is in conflict with Mercury and so are their Mars. When Mars is square Mars (like in their charts) relationships often end with fighting each other. It is the same kind of energy that brought them together:) Click the label Mars to see more examples...

BTW Rielle has Venus trine Pluto. The trine makes it easy to earn money and to value beauty. It is the tightest aspect in her chart. More about her on Wikipedia...
More about the chart of John Edwards here...

Warning: ! The chart of Edwards might not be for ther correct hour of birth, as it is just a C-rated chart (and no AA). (On the outside are the positions on the birth day of Rielle Hunter, for noon.)

Famous couple: Bill Clinton and Hillary (and Monica)

On Astrology and Love I wrote about Bill and Hillary Clinton before. In the post they were famous examples of not matching sun signs. Their not matching Suns are in Leo and Scorpio.

Often when Suns are in conflict there is an issue of ‘ who is the boss’ (ego in conflict!). Their Suns are semi sesquisquare apart (67.5 degrees) and that might keep the relationship going like a perpetuum mobile, always finding ways to make it a solar match. Both have a strong will and as their Suns are in fixed signs, they are likely to be willing to continue the relationship instead of breaking up, even if it is just for the public eye. They don't match at all. It takes something else than living together and luv to keep them together. That is:
a. They inspire each other (Mars septile Mars!).
b. They compete (Sun-Sun and Mars-Mars) and stimulate each other that way.
c. T hey both are ambitious political strategists with a dream.

That strategy and ambition, fixed sun signs and Saturn keeps them together in a long lasting relationship in spite of the publicity about Bill Clinton's affairs.

VENUS-SATURN
Hillary has Venus square Saturn. Bill’s Saturn is square the Sun of Hillary. Often that is a reflection of the importance of status, guilt or age in the relationship. Saturn doesn't always separate (in public). Saturn often brings consistency (a lawful wedding). The interesting thing is, that Bill's Saturn is also afflicting the Sun of Monica Lewinsky! The same idea of status and consistency that keeps Bill and Hillary together (officially) kept Monica and Bill apart: the Saturn effect! Scroll down to see more about the match between Bill and Monica.

INDICATIONS FOR DIVORCE
Hillary’s chart doesn’t have the usual indications for divorce in a woman’s chart, but Bill has Venus conjunct Neptune and Mars quindecile Uranus. It must be hard for him to be faithful, says the chart, and we all know how hard it was. When one person does have indications for more than one relationship and the other has not, we can expect affairs, especially when a man is rich (attracting all kinds of girls).

HILLARY
Hillary Clinton is a Sun Scorpio and Neptune rises before the Sun so that she needs dreams, ideals and romance first of all. She has a ‘ calling’ Sun, for leadership and drawing attention and Mercury in Scorpio is tightly square Saturn (for communication strategy, political restricted information). She might have an early Aries Moon trine Jupiter and that completes the picture of the top politician. In the study of American Presidents on Astromarkt you see that they all had Mercury-Saturn-Pluto combinations and that most of them had a Moon-Jupiter aspect (because they need to be popular in order to be elected). The hour of birth of Hillary Clinton is unknown.

BILL CLINTON
Bill Clinton is first of all a man who uses a political communication strategy. It is easy to see: Mercury, Saturn and Pluto rise before his Sun, together. He doesn’t have the Moon-Jupiter combination that other Presidents have. Maybe Sun/Moon sextile Jupiter is a compensation for that. His angular Neptune is reflecting the dreamer and idealist.

MARS-PLUTO
Just an observation: Hillary Clinton has a tight conjunction of Mars and Pluto. Bill Clinton's Mars is angular and Pluto rises right before his Sun. That shows the importance of their political (Pluto) activities (Mars) for both of them.

JOINING FORCES
Bill and Hillary don’t match, at least: their signs don’t match. Their long lasting relationship is exceptional, also in astrological terms. It is a relationship between two very ambitious political strategists and idealists who joined forces. You can see that: there is a minor aspects between their Mars, a septile. Septiles have to do with inspirations.What Bill does inspires Hillary and vice versa. Even their competition is inspiring to them.

I don't think that what Bill did with Monica was an inspiration to Hillary, however. Bill and Monica matched a little more than Hillary and Bill do:

- They are both Leo’s (and like to draw attention and show off)
- They both have the Moon in Taurus (and want comfort, luxury and luv)
- Their Venus signs match (they have the same taste and sympathies; they liked each other)

Mars in Aries is opposition Mars in Libra. Opposites attrack, yes, but in the end Mars-Mars tends to fight each other and indicates sexual attraction or working on the same project (and stimulating each other, There are many examples of Mars-Mars in synastry on this blog. Just click the label ' Mars'.

So, they matched enough to get started. His Saturn on her Sun shows us that there were restrictions, however. How about being married (and age?:) That is what kept them apart. And that is what keeps the Clinton's together: Saturn!

See more about Saturn in a relationship on this blog: http://astrology-love-romance.blogspot.com/2009/05/saturn-in-relationship-synastry.html

RELATED: about long lasting relationships and the effect of fixed signs...

Catharina the Great and her young lovers

Catharina de Grote had many lovers. In The Hermitage in Saint Petersburg they tell us that there might have been 70 young tall men who shared her bed. She managed to take over the throne of her husband and he was killed a week later. From that moment on until she died, she desired the company of young men. I don't know if the young men were volunteers.


What in her chart tells us why she had so many young lovers?
a. Venus is conjunct Moon. She needed to be loved and appreciated and had a lust for love. She also had sense of art and loved to educate the people by means of libraries and arts.
b. Venus and the Moon are opposition the Midheaven. That tells us that her sense of beauty (and need for love) was of crucial importance.
c. Venus and the Moon are in Gemini, the sign of 'more than one' and the sign of 'young'.
d. Mars rises before the Sun and is conjunct the Sun in Taurus. This tells us that she is an energetic active lady and not likely to stick to reading novels.
e. There is a Yod with Pluto in the 8th as the apex of a Mars-Saturn-Pluto combination (the combination of the theme of unnatural death). The inconjunction of Mars and Pluto points at disproportionate use and abuse of power and influence (more about Mars and Pluto on my site Astromarkt. The inconjunction of Saturn and Pluto tells us that she was a rather extreme 'die hard'. More about Saturn-Pluto combinations on Astromarkt...
f. The astrological equivalent for 'many' is : Jupiter. This planet is in the 5th house of entertainment, children, pro-creativity and ...lovers.
g. I almost forgot to mention Venus inconjunct Uranus, symbol of disproportionate (inconjunct) adventures (Uranus) in love (Venus) or the outrageous roller coaster:). More about Venus-Uranus on Astromarkt...or on Astropost ('firework in the rollercoaster').

You can see her natal chart on Astro.com...

Gay men marrying women

Mars-Uranus is one of the aspects in a man's chart that doesnot make it easy to get or stay married with a woman. That is what astrologer Ram found in the first half of the 20st century. He didn't mention why, but an explosive nature is perhaps not the best nature to have to stay married. I think that this aspect (also) might point at the importance of sexual diversity in a relationship. Gay men are often considered to be women's best friends. But it may not be a good idea to get married to your best friend, when his sexual orientation is not 'hetero', even though there may be sexual attraction.

One year ago I wrote about Margareth Thatcher and Edward Heath. The reason was the story that she had tried to seduce mr. Heath and failed, probably because of his sexual identity. Hmm...their charts don't match at all, so perhaps they were no match:). But there is also his Mars opposition her Uranus in the 5th.

The Mars-Uranus combination in the charts of females sometimes attract men who will remain 'friends' but with whom sexual relationships may fail. I have a few examples in my files of women with Mars-Uranus aspects in their charts who got married to men who later had their 'coming out' as a homosexual. The interaction between Mars and Uranus in the charts of a couple might point at unisexual relationships. I mean the sort of a relationship between a man and a woman that does not necessarily include sex (any more) or just now and then (the flashlight sexual relationship).

A famous Dutch example is the marriage of homosexual writer Gerard Reve (December 14, 1923, 17:30 Amsterdam) with poet Hanny Michaelis (December 19, 1922, 6 AM Amsterdam). They were married from 1948 to 1959. She has Mars conjunct Uranus in her chart, he too (127.5 degrees). Why did they get married anyway? They have Mars trine Mars and his Jupiter is on her Ascendant. Her progressed Uranus reached his Mars in the year before the marriage.*)

MINOR ASPECTS: SECOND THOUGHTS
Another example of the Mars-Uranus influence is Manvendra Singh Gohil, the homosexual Indian Prince who got married and later divorced because of his sexual identity. The potential of sexual diversity is in his chart: Mars sesquisemisquare Uranus.

I consider the minor aspects as indications for the more intimate aspects of a personality (the person when you get to know him/her better is reflected by the 'chart behind the chart')**). Another example of a minor aspect between Mars and Uranus and getting married though being homosexual is Dutch actor Albert Mol (03011917 030000 AMT Amsterdam). He also had children with his wife. Adéle Bloemendaal (actrice) was born with Mars inconjunct Uranus (on January 11, 1933 in Amsterdam) and she married actor/dancer Donald Jones (born January 24, 1932 in New York). He was gay (Mars quintile Uranus, Venus opposition Neptune). They had Mars sesquisquare Mars and got attracted to each other.

MORE MARS-URANUS EFFECTS
The Mars-Uranus combination does not necessarily need to be expressed in a sexual way. And homosexuals don't need to get married to a women, unless in certain social or cultural circumstances. (Elton John has Mars square Uranus,for example).
There are many other ways to reflect the 'unique and different kind of explosive' energy of Mars-Uranus. There is an article on my site Astromarkt.net with more information about Mars-Uranus combinations. The aspect is frequent in the charts of those who want to be fast with making changes, for example.
The influence of transits of Uranus with Mars is sometimes shocking, as you may read in the article on my site Astromarkt, about the trappist monks of Algeria.

*) It is important to have a look at the progressed charts of a couple. You can read about that in the Astrology of Meeting People on my site Astromarkt.
**) Read about the chart behind the chart of O.J. Simpson...

(c) http://astropost.blogspot.com