Princess Diana and Giscard d'Estaing lovers?

Giscard d'Estaing wrote a book about a romance with a princess and now the world is wondering if he referred to Diana. He met her when she was divorced and he was a widower, but he is 35 years older. No wonder that her Saturn is exactly inconjunct his Midheaven and trine his Ascendant. It says 'respect', but where is the passion? In fact, there is an intruiging aspect, an inconjunction, between his Mars and her Venus. Disproportionate passion, it says...But it doesn't prove a thing. The fact that there is a picture of her apparently flirting with him, doesn't mean that they were lovers. The only certainty is that he has progressed (SA) Sun square Jupiter. That means: success and progress and possibly a lot of sold books!:)

Read the Times and see that picture here...

Famous couples: Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson

Edward VIII (the later Duke of Windsor) abdicated to be able to marry the twice divorced Wallis Simpson. That is true love, isn't it? Let us see their charts and let us see if they really matched. In the end maybe your conclusion will be the same: they rebelled together and they strongly felt that they belonged together. The mutual Sun/Moon midpoint aspects with Jupiter and Ascendant and the shared 'calling' and elevated Uranus ruler 1 are clear about that.

EDWARD
Edward VIII has the following Astro ID:
- Jupiter rises before the Sun (the international, traveling) ; he lived part of his life in France.
- Juno (symbol of marriage) is positioned on top of his chart
- Uranus doesn't make major aspects in sign or orb 5 degrees. This 'calling' Uranus is reflecting the upheaval and the important change in his life. As Uranus rules the first house and is placed in the equal 10th house, the change is likely to occur in the field of status, position and family ranking.

His abdication came right after progressed Pluto inconjunct Uranus. Pluto and Uranus together imply a dramatic change. The inconjunction adds ‘giving up on something, loss’ to this meaning. Transit Uranus was inconjunct natal Midheaven, showing the change (with a loss) while transit Neptune was inconjunct his Ascendant, showing the disproportionate sacrifice.

A romantic nature is attributed to the Moon in Pisces. But Edward VIII had Mars exactly on Aries Point. So he could be sharp, too. And perhaps Jupiter in the equal fifth house (same position as in the chart of Catherina the Great – who had so many lovers) shows us why there was concern about his ‘womazing’ before he met mrs. Simpson.

WALLIS
Wallis Simpson:
- Uranus is the elevated planet, ruler of the first house and in the 10th equal house (public upheaval, change in position) and Uranus doesn't make major aspects. Just like in the chart of her husband Edward, Uranus is 'calling'. Together they 'rebelled'...
- Neptune is rising before the Sun (a romantic dreamer in the first place) and in aspect with Sun/Moon and AC/MC. Romance motivates her and is the key motive in her life!
- Her Sun square Aries Point doesn't make aspects: she will draw attention at any possible level.
- Mercury is conjunct Neptune, perhaps she was misunderstood or she really was hiding some facts. In any case, she was in fact mistrusted. They thought that she was after the money of Edward and didn't really love him.

There were indications for possible divorce in her chart:
Sun 67.5 degrees Mars (sesquisemisquare Sun-Mars)
Venus inconjunct Uranus (orb 3 degrees, however)
Neptune trine Ascendant (romantic/seductive attitude)
Mars inconjunct Uranus might indicate the 'wrong man'

In the days of her later husband's abdication (December 10, 1936) her progressed Midheaven was inconjunct Pluto, illustrating the lost of power, influence and money and the disproportionate influence of politics on her developing position. They married June 3, 1937. But did they match?

THE MATCH
Their Suns didn't match (hers in Gemini, his in Cancer) but as they were not far apart (only 3.3 degrees) they joined lifestyle and lives.

Their Moons didn't match either (hers in Libra, his in Pisces), an understandable reflection of the difference in upbringing, family style and habits. The Moons are sesquisquare, symbol of the frustrations that it must have given them both.

Their Mercury's didn't match.

Her Venus is semi sextile his. No match.

Her Mars is in Aries and so is his. But...they are a half semi square apart! It means that they were attracted to each other, and that they quarreled too.

SHARED ASPECTS
They share the same Ascendant in Aquarius and both had Uranus elevated and 'calling'. Were they just joining forces to withstand rules and regulations, I wonder. Where is the 'luv'? Why this sacrifice? And was it?

SUN/MOON: BELONGING TOGETHER
I noticed that her Jupiter, Chiron and Ascendant are in hard aspect with his Sun/Moon midpoint. His Venus, Jupiter, Chiron and Ascendant were in hard aspect with HER Sun/Moon midpoint. That can be read as follows: they had a strong feeling that they belonged together. It is exceptional that Jupiter, Chiron and Ascendant on both sides are in aspect with Sun/Moon! They must have made each other happy.

SACRIFICE, DESIRE OR FAITH?
Edward had Sun inconjunct Midheaven and Jupiter quindecile Midheaven. Jupiter and Sun connections are not uncommon for a member of the 'royalty', who is being protected and guided throughout life. But he also had duties, symbolized by Saturn semi square MC. The semi square reveals that the job's responsibilities may have frustrated him or we should belief in predicted faith and see it as an indication of stepping back later. The Moon in Pisces, square Midheaven, reflects the influence of romantic feelings on his career. Mars quintile Neptune (a creative way to give up on a job)? Read Astropost about the Queen Mum, whome he referred to as 'Queen' long before he abdicated...

SO...
They may not have been 'made for each other' but when they married they at least liked each other*)and they certainly felt that they belonged together.
The tigh trine between Sun and Saturn in their composite chart kept them together. This aspect draws attention. Wallis Simpson had Sun sesquisquare Saturn. Edward VIII had Sun in a 105-degree aspect with Saturn. They shared restrictions (they were never officially accepted) and perhaps that created the first unbreakable bond for mrs. Simpson...

*) His progressed Venus was opposition her progressed MC and her progressed Venus was close to his progressed Sun in those days.

The exceptions of (not) matching Sun signs

This post is about (not) matching Sun signs and minor synastry aspects that make the difference.

When Sun signs are not 'matching' it is often difficult to stay together in the long term. Conflicting lifestyles and conflicting ideas of life's nature stand in the way, even if the couple loves and likes each other. Example: Ryan O'Neal and Farah Fawcett, who’s Suns were 78 degrees apart. They separated. Couples that have afflictions between other positions in the chart however, may stay together if their Suns are matching. For example, because they have the strong will (Sun in a fixed sign like Taurus, Leo, Scorpio or Aquarius), or because of the family/children or 'because it is supposed to last'(Sun in Cancer or in Capricorn). A famous example is Queen Juliana (a Taurus) and her Cancer husband Bernhard, who had 2 daughters with two other women during the everlasting marriage.

When Sun signs are not matching, there is often no ground for 'living as one'. But there are exceptions, of course (there always are:). Such as, when the Suns make minor aspects, hard or soft ones. Minor aspects between Suns in a relationship tell us that there is a link between the two natures. Minor aspects are for example: semi square (45 degrees), septile (51.4 degrees), sesqui semi square (67.5 degrees), quintile (72 degrees), sesquisquare (135 degrees), biquintile (144 degrees), inconjunction (150 degrees) and quindecile (165 degrees). Other minor aspects have 36, 75, 105, 108 or 157.5 degrees.

Examples:
The Obamas have Sun quindecile Sun, representing a strong focus on each other, so that they are sticking together like a stamp to a letter (as the song says). I know of a couple of actors who have Sun biquintile Sun, so that they found a creative way to join their lives. With the minor square aspects it may be a challenge to stay together, and life styles are obviously different, but the fact that there IS an aspect tells us that the challenge was accepted, like in the case of King Albert and Queen Paola of Belgium. An inconjunction causes lost of balance on both sides. Can such an affair last forever? I doubt it.

When Sun signs are not 'matching' and the Suns don't make a minor or major aspect, other influences than drawing each other's attention and wanting to live 'as one' become more important. I know a couple with Ascendant conjunct Ascendant. They may not have the same life style, but they join the same approach and they like the same environment. Isn't that part of the life style?:) Even though the Leo is the party beast and shopper while the Taurus is fond of riding on horse back and dreaming of living in a rural part of the country they look very close.

Suns may be in matching signs with challenging aspects. This happens with:

- the 67.5 degree aspect
This occurs when the Sun signs are two signs and 7.5 degrees apart, for example Sun in Aries 10 degrees and Sun in Gemini 18 degrees.

- the sesquisquare aspect
This happens when the Sun signs are 4 signs and 15 degree apart, for example Sun in Aries 10 degrees and Sun in Leo 25 degrees

These Suns draw each other's attention. Though they seem to be matching, there is a challenge to overcome and they have to learn to live together as one (or stop it).

Example of the contrary:
Every rule has it exceptions. Richard Burton (Sun in Scorpio) and Elisabeth Taylor married a few times and divorced a few times. Their Sun signs matched. She is a Pisces. There is no conflict between the Suns, but there are other conflicts, like the inconjunctions between Sun and Uranus or Venus and Saturn and the not matching Venus. Still, it is amazing how they kept believing in a future together and kept falling in love. Perhaps it is because of that matching sun. Maybe another time I will study their synastry, the aspect that they share etc.

When there is a conflict between the first and seventh house or (when it is a man) between Moon and Saturn, Moon and Neptune, Venus and Neptune or Mars and Uranus, or (when it is a woman) between Sun and Mars, Sun and Uranus, Venus and Uranus or Mars and Saturn...and when it is the first marriage...it is highly possible that divorce follows. But again: there are always exceptions.

Example:
Bill Clinton is a Leo. Hillary Clinton is a Scorpio. These Sun signs don't match. But there is a minor aspect between their suns (67.5 degrees, a sesqui semi square). I know a couple that also has such an aspect and they have a long lasting marriage, too. Bill Clinton has Sun and Moon afflicted with Neptune. Since it is his first marriage, a divorce might follow. But, Hillary doesn't have the usual conflicts in her chart and she is a Scorpio.

Positions, cultures, history and law give different perspectives, too.
Matching or not matching is not as simple as to be or not to be...

For more about matching signs on this site, click the label 'matching'...